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Mele20
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reply to siljaline

Re: Adobe Flash Player 11.3.300.271

Why the bad link with the garbage? Now I have to go find the other thread with correct link.

This is the clean link from the other thread.
»www.adobe.com/products/flashplay···on3.html

Why do you persist in posting the link with the garbage? ( I would have the correct link in bookmarks except I had a corrupted profile recently and had to go back to my orginal profile where bookmarks are not up to date).



siljaline
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For lay people that are instructed to install the software without the Bell & Whistles, Mele20 See Profile the link posted at the top of this thread is my go-to link and has not failed me yet

I would not qualify the link as trash. It works. That's what matters.

Update as you choose and let others decide as they choose.

Simple enough.



Name Game
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..and a good link it is for any user to start out with no matter what browser they are running since it will tell you what to do next ,if you need it and what version you currently have.

In the case of google chrome one will get this message...

Your Google Chrome browser already includes Adobe® Flash® Player built-in. Google Chrome will automatically update when new versions of Flash Player are available.

Do you have a different operating system or browser?

To learn more about the enhanced support for Flash Player in Chrome, including information for developers, see this TechNote.


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Mele20
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But that link is trash. It wants to install McAfee!! Do you and siljane have some deal going with McAfee?

How can either of you claim that link is the one that "lay people that are instructed to install the software without the Bell & Whistles" should choose? The link I suggested, and that is in the other thread in this forum about Flash install, does NOT want to install any crap on your computer. It is the one that lay users that fit YOUR description should use, not the link you persist in foisting on users every time Adobe has a Flash update and then we end up with a second thread with the best link that doesn't try to fool users into installing McAfee or whatever garbage Adobe is pushing that month.

The better link simply lets you install Flash Player with nothing to confuse or mislead anyone like your link does. For users that are totally ignorant about computers, Flash update should be on automatic and you should not be giving them a link to any download page because it updates automatically (that auto update is not ideal but better than the totally ignorant user ending up with two antivirus programs conflicting and not knowing what to do)!

When you post here, you are posting for users who have some knowledge about computers but they can get distracted by the link you keep giving and accidentally install garbage along with Flash update so why give them that bad link? If that link had OPT IN to get the garbage (such as McAfee) also installed that would be ok but Adobe has deliberately made that OPT OUT in the hopes of ensnaring folks who are distracted and not paying enough attention to see that they need to uncheck that box. I don't believe Adobe should be rewarded for this despicable behavior. The clean link is what you should link to unless you are benefiting somehow from giving a crap link that Adobe hopes to fool users with.
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rcdailey
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I always check those Adobe instalers (and installers in general) for the other apps that are offered and uncheck them. Don't users here always do that regardless of the link offered in a post? That said, I am using an older version of Flash now because the newer ones don't work right on my system. So, I'll have to take my chances, but I'm pretty careful.
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jabarnut
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reply to siljaline

said by Mele20:

...

This is the clean link from the other thread.
»www.adobe.com/products/flashplay···on3.html
...

said by siljaline:

For lay people that are instructed to install the software without the Bell & Whistles, Mele20 See Profile the link posted at the top of this thread is my go-to link and has not failed me yet

I would not qualify the link as trash. It works. That's what matters.

Update as you choose and let others decide as they choose.

Simple enough.

While I agree with both of you to a certain extent, depending on the circumstances, seriously, siljaline See Profile. I think you'd be a lot happier with Mele's link in the future. No extra crap you have to avoid, and works flawlessly. I use that link exclusively for Flash.
(BTW, these are the same .exe installers I sometimes get from FileHippo, which are at times available there even before they are on the link Mele provided, amazingly).
I'm not saying it's not best to go directly to the vendors site, but I have no problem getting them from FileHippo either in this case. (One of the few sites site I happen to trust completely for downloads).
But Mele's link is my 'go-to' place for Flash for sure, and has been for quite a while.
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Name Game
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I disagree for the following reasons.

1.We are today talking about this update need...

Release date: August 14, 2012

Vulnerability identifier: APSB12-18

»www.adobe.com/support/security/b···-18.html

2.this was the previous update need before that one..

Release date: June 8, 2012
Vulnerability identifier: APSB12-14
For users who cannot update to Flash Player 11.3.300.257, Adobe has developed a patched version of Flash Player 10.x, Flash Player 10.3.183.20, which can be downloaded here.

»www.adobe.com/support/security/b···-14.html

As you see that one also gives you info on a version called 10.3.183.20.

Now if a user went to the link Mele20 suggested they would see two versions for users with Windows and Internet Explorer.

They are...

Flash Player 11.3.300.271

For Windows and Internet Explorer

and

Flash Player 10.3.183.20

For Windows and Internet Explorer

»www.adobe.com/products/flashplay···on3.html

So just going to the link directly...which one should they install.

I realize the newer one should be obvious...but think on that particular page they should have added info as to why 10.3.183.20 was still offered...because there is no mention of it at all at the link for Release date: August 14, 2012

Vulnerability identifier: APSB12-18
»www.adobe.com/support/security/b···-18.html

Then I will tell you that some people who have Windows and Internet Explorer and even try to install 11.3.300.271..it will not work...so guess what they should do ?
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jabarnut
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said by Name Game:

..so guess what they should do ?

Punt?

All kidding aside, I see where you're coming from. Some people can get easily confused. (Hell, I'm easily confused).
But certainly for most who hang out around here, they know what they're looking for...(including siljaline, I'm sure).
But hey, as long as your boat continues to float, all should be well.
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Name Game
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No..wait for half time and call in the old guys

10.3.183.20 is the latest version for IE 6 SP1 and the last version

I am surprise adobe even renders their site for IE6..and thought someone told me last week they could not get there with IE6 and had to installed another client browser.
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jabarnut
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said by Name Game:

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I am surprise adobe even renders their site for IE6..and thought someone told me last week they could not get there with IE6 and had to installed another client browser.

They do that strictly for Dude111 See Profile.
He has special privileges when it comes to IE 6.
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Name Game
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said by jabarnut:

said by Name Game:

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I am surprise adobe even renders their site for IE6..and thought someone told me last week they could not get there with IE6 and had to installed another client browser.

They do that strictly for Dude111 See Profile.
He has special privileges when it comes to IE 6.

good..have to look out for our buddies.
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kickass69

join:2002-06-03
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reply to Name Game

There's still plenty of people using 10.3.183.20 because of all the screw ups Adobe has been releasing since they started sandboxing and who knows what other 'tweaks' with Flash 11.3.



siljaline
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I secretly do, for myself, for others that are clueless as to what an EXE or MSI are, I just give instructions to avoid all third party offerings.
It's not that complicated. I really don't see what the huge debate is on a go-to link.
It is not the default, so I can't tell a client to go there, necessarily.



jabarnut
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Hey, I understand completely. And if you're happy, then I'm happy.
Really no huge debate here on my end, just personal opinions that can easily be dismissed. Just ask my wife...she never listens to a damn thing I say. (And to be honest, I don't really blame her a whole lot, after the amazing number of years she's had to listen to me).
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siljaline
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Totally understand, jabarnut See Profile sharing some pointy-stick


EdmundGerber

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reply to Mele20

fuck it


dsilvers

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reply to siljaline

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Flash .271 breaks when run sandboxed in Firefox 14.0.1. Runs fine when not sandboxed.

Found a solution here: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1018071?

To disable Protected Mode, add the following line to your mms.cfg file located in:

Windows 32bit: C:\windows\system32\macromed\flash
Windows 64bit: C:\windows\syswow64\macromed\flash

ProtectedMode=0

Protected mode changes permissions for flash and since I sandbox my internet facing applications I don't require it.


antdude
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reply to kickass69

said by kickass69:

There's still plenty of people using 10.3.183.20 because of all the screw ups Adobe has been releasing since they started sandboxing and who knows other 'tweaks' with Flash 11.3.

And old/unsupported OSes like Mac OS X 10.5.8 and W2K SP4.
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siljaline
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reply to Mele20

said by Mele20:

But that link is trash. It wants to install McAfee!! Do you and siljane have some deal going with McAfee?

Yes, selling trash gets big bucks. Ya'll should try it.


siljaline
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Thank you for reporting this, dsilvers See Profile



StuartMW
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reply to antdude

said by antdude:

And old/unsupported OSes like Mac OS X 10.5.8 and W2K SP4.

Hey, I have an 11yr-old Win2K-SP4 box! I have Flash 11.1.102.63 (last version to install on Win2K) on it but to be honest I don't browse on it much. Mostly a backup machine these days. That said it works fine although a bit slow.
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Name Game
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Yup version to download for Win2k

»www.oldapps.com/flash_player.php···ows_2000



StuartMW
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Well Adobe says Flash 10.x was the last to work on Win2K but 11.1.102.63 does install and operate
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Name Game
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said by StuartMW:

Well Adobe says Flash 10.x was the last to work on Win2K but 11.1.102.63 does install and operate

Yes J Fortune figured out how to do that version also in this thread and passed it along..do you recall having to do something similar?
»bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?even···=3120661


StuartMW
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said by Name Game:

...do you recall having to do something similar?

All I did was download and install it. I did nothing special.

There's no Control Panel Applet in Win2K but above is what Adobe's website shows. Looks like I got the version wrong: it's 11.1.102.55.
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jabarnut
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I kind of like this link for testing Flash.
»www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
Lets you know what version you have installed, as compared to the latest versions for Windows, Mac, Chrome, Linux, etc.

(Why did I reply to myself? I didn't really need to know this).



Name Game
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It's the link I already suggested people use first to start out the "process" and at that link I can also block the advertisment that adobe has to smack you in the face.