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cramer
Premium
join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:9
reply to CECat

Re: [Modem] Help with Motorola 3360 Modem and router configurati

The only down side to bridge mode is no access to the modem's UI.

You'll need to go through the modem/router's lame AT&T mandated crap for setup once. After it's connected it can be put in bridge mode without any further annoyances. If it's like the old westel's (2100, 6100, etc.), there's no way around it as the account setup page is the only one it will show until it's connected at least once.


CECat

join:2012-08-14

OK, I have now gone through the AT&T setup and placed the modem in bridge mode. The downside is not being able to get to the modem stats and logs. Is there any way around that at all?

Currently, I can now access the Buffalo router from the internet using my DYNDNS setup but, since I can't get to the modem, I can't do anything long-distance to find *why* if the internet is down, nor can I access the stats and logs locally to communicate with AT&T about my crappy noise issue and frequent drops. We lose synch during any and all thunder ... NOT rain, THUNDER. No one has ever heard of such a thing, but I have been documenting it since April and, thus, would like to be able to continue to do so.

So, is there any way to gain access to that information and *also* be able to access the router admin from the internet?

Thanks!!



graysonf
Premium,MVM
join:1999-07-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL
kudos:2

Your inability to connect to a modem from behind a router is a limitation of the router.

When I was on this service, running m0n0wall as a router, a fairly simple configuration adjustment in the router made it possible to connect to the modem from behind the router on my LAN. It was almost never that I had a need to actually connect to the modem though.

You might try searching the forum FAQ for information related to this. There are some kludgy things you can do to accomplish this without having to unplug cables and such.

As to thunder causing connection drops, I do remember that happening here from time to time. That thunder was way off in the distance though. Actually it must have been the associated lightning that caused it.


CECat

join:2012-08-14

If that is the case, I suspect that the router is capable -- the only trouble will be with me figuring out how to find and configure the necessary settings. Any idea what I would be looking for? Is there some terminology that would get me to the right instruction?

Thanks!
Susan



graysonf
Premium,MVM
join:1999-07-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL
kudos:2

The router only approach involves being able to assign an additional private IP address to the WAN interface and provide a certain outbound NAT rule to allow the modem to be reached. I suspect most routers alone by themselves are incapable of this.

Although not helpful to you, I am including the relevant link for setting this up on m0n0wall:

»wiki.m0n0.ch/wikka.php?wakka=acc···firewall

I am still using m0n0wall but with Comcast cable instead of AT&T DSL. No special configuration of m0n0wall as above is needed to reach the modem which has an IP address of 192.168.100.1. I have no explanation why this works, it just does.



wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
kudos:1
reply to CECat

What is the ip address of the buffalo airstation router


CECat

join:2012-08-14

192.168.11.1



wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
kudos:1

When the modem is in bridge mode it can be accessed from the lan and it cannot be accessed from the internet


CECat

join:2012-08-14

I am unsuccessful reaching the modem from the LAN through the stated IP of the modem (which is 192.168.1.254). It just times out. Am I missing something?

Thanks!



wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
kudos:1

said by CECat:

I am unsuccessful reaching the modem from the LAN through the stated IP of the modem (which is 192.168.1.254). It just times out. Am I missing something?

The computer you use to access the bridged modem must have a ip address that is within the modems subnet

Also if the router is initiating the pppoe session
The pppoe session will block access to the modem

CECat

join:2012-08-14

Sorry, I missed that last reply, Wayjac, but I'm afraid you're a bit over my head.

The modem's IP is 192.168.1.254
The router's IP is definitely 192.168.11.1

All of the connected computers are in the router's range. The modem does not have an additional ethernet port where I can connect a computer.

Are you saying that if I change the IP of one of the computers to 192.168.1.2 I will be able to communicate with the modem?

My service is once again deteriorating rapidly, so I'd really like to find a way to access the modem's logs and stats if any way possible. If that means I have to configure everything differently, I may just have to do that (but will need advice on that as well).

Thanks so much!!
Susan



wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
kudos:1

IF you want to access the modems configuration pages you'll need to connect a computer directly to the modem and that computer must have a ip address within the modems ip subnet like
192.168.1.64
If you want access to the modems configuration pages with a computer connected to the router you will need to change the ip of the router to a ip within the subnet of the modem and make some other changes to the way the router is connected to the modem


CECat

join:2012-08-14

Thanks for the reply and sorry to be dense, but ... are you saying that if I change the ROUTER's IP address to the same subnet as the modem, then I will be able to access the modem from a computer connected to the router? So, for example, if the modem is 192.168.1.254 and I change the router's IP (currently 192.168.11.1) to 192.168.1.1 and, then a computer on the LAN to 192.168.1.2, that computer will be able to access the interface at 192.168.1.254?

Thanks again!


CECat

join:2012-08-14

Never mind ... I think I *finally* grasped the issue and it looks like the only rational solution will be to add a hub between the modem and router, and attach a spare laptop to that with an IP on the same subnet as the modem.

Susan



wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
kudos:1

said by CECatit :

looks like the only rational solution will be to add a hub between the modem and router, and attach a spare laptop to that with an IP on the same subnet as the modem

You don't need to add a hub or a spare computer if the router has two unused ethernet ports

CECat

join:2012-08-14

Oh! So, if I connect the spare laptop to one of the router's empty ports, but set its IP to match the modem's subnet, then I can contact the modem through it? If so, then what is the second router port needed for?

Pretend you're explaining to an idiot Actually, you won't be pretending!

Thanks so much!!
Susan



wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
kudos:1

said by CECat:

Oh! So, if I connect the spare laptop to one of the router's empty ports, but set its IP to match the modem's subnet, then I can contact the modem through it?

Correct
said by CECat:

If so, then what is the second router port needed for?

Connecting the modem and router this way uses two router lan ports

Here's a picture that shows the connections
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CECat

join:2012-08-14

Thank you!!! Almost idiot-proof

One (hopefully) last question --- do the spare laptop AND the router now have to be on the same subnet as the modem, or just the spare laptop?

REALLY appreciate all your help, Wayjac!



wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
kudos:1

said by CECat:

One (hopefully) last question --- do the spare laptop AND the router now have to be on the same subnet as the modem, or just the spare laptop?

If the spare laptop is the only computer you want to access the modem. Only the spare laptop needs to use the same subnet as the modem