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Mele20
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Hilo, HI
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reply to redwolfe_98

Re: Warning: 0-Day vulnerability in Java 7

said by redwolfe_98:

mele said that she needs "java" in order to be able run a particular "speed-test".. she doesn't want to compromise.. (there are lots of "speed-tests" that don't require "java" )..

personally, i try to lock down my computer, to make it secure, and part of doing that is not having "java" installed when i can live without it..

It is not because I am unwilling to "compromise". Flash speed tests are completely worthless. For one thing, they test capacity only...In other words...they test to see if your ISP has actually allocated the amount of speed that you pay for. But capacity has NOTHING to do with your actual speed or the quality of your speed. For instance, I am paying for 15mbps down. I got it about a month ago and it is a RIP OFF. I get EXACTLY the SAME speed, quality wise, on it that I was getting on Standard RR at 10 mbps down. Plus, on Standard RR, I got PowerBoost. Anyone with that on their line (and your ISP cannot remove it just for you) should never do a Flash speed test as it will be grossly inflated by PowerBoost ...less inflated by Java speed test and on the quality test I linked to earlier no inflation but that is the only test out there (except for Sam Knows for us FCC testers) that can do an accurate quality test on a line with PowerBoost. I don't get PowerBoost at all on 15mbps down. So, I could do a Flash capacity test (to avoid Java) but that would tell me my speed is 14.85 mbps. I do a quality test which REQUIRES JAVA and I see that my line quality is shit...the speed is extremely erratic and I see a lot of other problems ...nicely detailed for me with a lot of explanation and white papers I can read so I can be educated and force my ISP to fix things...until the next breakdown and those happen really frequently here.

Also, on the Quality test, to a fancy dedicated server in Los Angles, I get 7.25mbps down and, sometimes, a Quality of Service of 95% (other times as low as 2%). This test tells me what speed I have for NetFlix streaming, Hulu streaming, etc. This test tells me the truth. A Flash test to most locations in California would say (if I still had PowerBoost) that I have around 23mbps down. That is on 10mbps down. But if I did this Java Quality test, when I had 10mbps down, I would average 7.25mbps down and quality ranging from 95% to as low as 2%.

On 15mbps down, I still get 7.25mbps on the Quality Java test from the link I gave earlier. That means that paying $10 a month more for 15mbps down is not worth it. It is a ripoff. It APPEARS worth it if you do a crappy flash test which just tests to see the capacity of your line not the quality. Quality of your connection is the ONLY important thing as long as you have 3mbps down (or higher).

So, I choose to see the truth about my speed. Plus, I happen to own MySpeed (an older version and I want to upgrade to a newer version). I can start it and tell it to test to a particular server in the list, every 10 minutes, for as long as I want. I get great data to show my ISP and they have fixed my line several times based on the data. They use MySpeed test on their gateways so they know it is the best in the industry and they respect its results.

So, you think I should just forget the money I spent on MySpeed software because I am unwilling to "compromise"? It is a lot more than a minor compromise. I do wish that Oracle would take better care of Java but I can't force them to do that. I also suspect that if I could afford DOCSIS 3 speeds now offered by ISP that it might not matter about speed tests but I really had to think hard before adding just an additional $10 per month to my bill. No way I can afford now, or probably ever, the higher DOCSIS 3 speeds.
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Name Game
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Here is a java one I use while in Pennsylvania..how does it work for you ?

»ptd.net/tiki-index.php?page=PTD_Speedtest

Mele20
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typing with one hand...lot's of pain, stiffness suddenly in one hand around the thumb...typing aggravates greatly. icing now...

that test is abbreviated version of MySpeed. gave me 2.34mbps down. too far away...150ms round trip...too high for good speed.
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DrDrew
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reply to Mele20
Mele20 have you ever tweaked (adjusted RWIN and other TCP settings) on your XP computer for new speeds you've been provisioned with over the years?

Check here:
»/tweaks

redwolfe_98
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said by DrDrew:

Mele20 have you ever tweaked the RWIN and other TCP settings on your XP computer

i was wondering the same thing.. i imagine that mele already considered tweaking the TCP/IP settings on her computer..

i tried using some utility, years ago, to tweak the TCP/IP settings on my computer and it make a pretty big difference.. i went from download-speeds of about 2.7 MBPS to about 8 MBPS.. (it was advertized as having a 3 MBPS download-speed).. that was years ago.. with my current connection, i would say i get 20 MBPS.. somtimes the speed-tests show that i am getting 30 MBPS, if i do the tests late at nite..

i use "roadrunner" and their system will throttle-back my connection speed when i am doing speed-tests.. it is advertised as having an 8 MBPS download-speed..

i was going to attach a reg-file that i use to tweak the TCP/IP settings on my computer but it might not be appropriate for other computers so i didn't attach it..


Name Game
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reply to Mele20
said by Mele20:

typing with one hand...lot's of pain, stiffness suddenly in one hand around the thumb...typing aggravates greatly. icing now...

that test is abbreviated version of MySpeed. gave me 2.34mbps down. too far away...150ms round trip...too high for good speed.

Bummer cause I tried your java speed test and I get the same as the one here in PA.
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planet

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Round Two with this exploit:
Taken from here:
»krebsonsecurity.com/

"Researchers: Java Zero-Day Leveraged Two Flaws:
New analysis of a zero-day Java exploit that surfaced last week indicates that it takes advantage of not one but two previously unknown vulnerabilities in the widely-used software. The latest figures suggest that these vulnerabilities have exposed more than a billion users to attack."

I've now removed Java from all of my PCs. I've had it off my desktop and laptop for awhile. I'd left it on my daughter's laptop but when I uninstalled it recently, I didn't update...my daughter is using an ipad moreso nowadays anyway.


Dude111
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reply to Name Game

 

Thats a good test!!!

Thank you... I find JAVA works better than flash! (Not as CPU intensive,etc)



EDIT:

It says my DL speed is 1.98Megs which i think is way off!!



I think the results from this one are more accurate

»www.computers4sure.com/speed.asp

Says my DL is 2386k


StuartMW
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said by Dude111:

I think the results from this one are more accurate

Not for me. It told me 2740.1 Kbps which is way low.

I typically get 10.3Mbps from this site.

»www.speedtest.net




Even C/Net's test gave me 7,333Kbps.

»webservices.cnet.com/bandwidth/
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