RayW
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| And then you have Motorola
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According to 3Com spokesperson Kim Sullivan, the big network equipment maker discontinued its consumer cable modem business last summer.
"We currently do not have a product that is affected by the threat" described by Hallacy, she said.
Remember back in the 60's when a person invented the 'blue box'? He told the feds about it, they asked AT&T. AT&T said "impossible". Organized crime bought it up and the story went down hill from there.
If man makes, man can break.
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SterlingJ85
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Millville, NJ
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| I think that was the fastest implementation a telco ever had... They had new circuit switched equipment installed in less than 6 months in most areas...
Wish that DSL would be implemented just as fast. 
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Littleton, CO |  Not just DSL, DSL without interleave. That's why I'm going back to IDSL.
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gomer1701ems
join:2001-08-23
Minneapolis, MN | reply to RayW
said by RayW:
Remember back in the 60's when a person invented the 'blue box'?
I'm sorry, but what is a "blue box?"
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SterlingJ85
Obama 2008
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Millville, NJ
·PHONE POWER
| It was a box that made dial tones when most things were still rotary. They discovered that by making certain tones (mimicing the phone companies DTMF equipment) with a "captain crunch" whistle... The telephone switch would route you to a long distance circuit that would allow you to dial long distance 100% free of charge for as long as you wanted. (The guy who found this was dubbed "Captain Crunch" because of his whistle.) After AT&T realized that it was actually possible to do this, they pulled the machanical dialers out and put in electronic dialers. |
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tenebrion
join:2001-12-12
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA
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said by RayW:
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According to 3Com spokesperson Kim Sullivan, the big network equipment maker discontinued its consumer cable modem business last summer.
"We currently do not have a product that is affected by the threat" described by Hallacy, she said.
Remember back in the 60's when a person invented the 'blue box'? He told the feds about it, they asked AT&T. AT&T said "impossible". Organized crime bought it up and the story went down hill from there.
If man makes, man can break.
The blue box worked at one time...
(Not saying that I use one, just i test alot of hardware & software for people in my time)
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RayW
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clubs: | [quote]The blue box worked at one time...[\quote]
My point exactly, and AT&T said it could not. So said Ms Sullivan....
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jimor
join:2002-03-17
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Blue Box, Red Box, and Oh Ma Bell!!!
The situation with the Boxes (Red and Blue) was quite a lot bigger than most people had any idea! In a comprehensive article in "RADIO ELECTRONICS" magazine of November, 1987 (to be found at many libraries) pages 49-52 and 129, titled: "The Blue Box and Ma Bell", they show that the blue box was a quick way for mostly college kids to avoid the payment of long distance tolls by fooling the phone company's dialing equipment into thinking it was a local call, and while the Cap'n Crunch whistle helped in a limited way, it was the invention of a (first) vacuum tube electronic 'box' followed in the mid sixties (second) by a solid state version which then made it very small, inexpensive and practical to use even at coin phones. This was followed by the 'red box' which was taken up by organized crime to lay off bets through untraceable connections. This solid state version finally became so commonplace (millions were in use!) that the phone company finally acknowledged its existence and spent the money to up-grade the switching system to detect such attempts to access illegally, so don't try it today.
I don't blame the phone company for trying to stop theft of service, but as the excellent article points out, they were at the time concealing the existence of their device that recorded every time a phone was picked up, as well as the number dialing and the number dialed. You recall the old movies with the cops trying to trace who the kidnapper was by means of the phone, and all those technicians shown running around the telco offices looking at the rotary switches in a 30+ minute effort to trace? Well, it was all blarney from the phone company who told authorities that there was no record of what phone number called what other number, so often the miscreant said "Don't bother to try and trace; I won't be on long enough." Turns out the telco had the 'Automatic Message Accounting' machine all the time (since the early 50s at least) and just denied its existence, even though RADIO ELECTRONICS then prints a photo of the very booklet about the machine that Ma Bell had printed before a bean counter there realized that it would tip off both the public and authorities to the fact that the phone company always knows who is calling whom, and the telcos dreaded what they imagined to be thousands of inquiries from public and government alike as to who called who, and the consequent expense of having employees having to run the record tapes for each inquiry. Imagine how many thousands of extortioners, pedophiles, kindnappers, and filthy talkers got away because it was inconvenient for AT&T to take the time to help authorities!
You will be amazed by the revelations in this article in a respected tech journal as to just how craven, greedy and manipulative the phone company was, and this is just part of why the US govt spent millions to finally break up a horrible monopoly that overthrew the government of Chile!
Moral of the story? Don't EVER believe a 'provider', since like all businesses, they exist to take as much money from you as possible and in any way they can! Whether it hurts your interests or not is of no moment to them. Always realize that computers make it VERY easy to steal your private life from you and commit any number of frauds for the power and profit of big business, and that the government which is wholly owned by big business will never do anything concrete to help you. Regard all dealing with any 'provider' (or any business) as a calculated risk = weigh the supposed benefits carefully against all the obvious and hidden costs. We all ALL victims of our amoral society, even the crafty fellow who tweaked his modem, for, if they desire, the big business types can squash him or you and me like bugs, and our good-for-nothing governments will only shuffle the papers and say something like: 'regrettable.' |
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