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Need some plumbers opinions.

Sounds reasonable ... anything custom will be an add-on from the stock plans

reply to rbnice1
I can imagine 6 hours if the guy goes slowly (because it looks a bit confusing)

Think about it, that's 6 shower heads and 4 controls.
God knows how all those things need to interact.

reply to rbnice1
Open stud wall, new construction install? 6 hours? Maybe for a 1st year apprentice.

The pissed off guy should be the one installing the cement board and tile...

reply to rbnice1
The shower "system" was spec'd and included in the original agreement??? Or was it just spec'd as "a" shower? It's a hard lesson, but it's customary for any change from the original specs to cost additonal monies. That's how many companies, not just building contractors, make a lot of their money!

What you're requesting is certainly no simple showerhead installation.
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Just installed something similar in mine. I didn't watch the time because I was constantly digging for my plumbing tools( I've been out of work for awhile), It must have been 3 or 4 hours total but 3 sprays instead of 4 and I had the framing so that everything fell into one stud space..

One trick a guy I used to work for, when a customer had any changes to fixtures or placement, he would treat the whole order separately and not subtract what was normally included. So in essence the customer was charged twice for the given installation. One reason when a customer asked a billing question I always referred them to the builder or the boss. Not my idea on how to run a business ... He raked in a lot when customers supplied their own fixtures, he would only guaranty installation and referred them to their supplier/manufacturer if the fixture was faulty. A lot of people thought they were saving money by supplying a fixture from HD, when 1) they had an inferior valve( plastic parts), and 2) they were still charged for what we normally supply(all metal parts and probably was cheaper to buy the good stuff at the supply house than the junk at HD).

Buyer be where ..........

reply to Pacrat
Yes it actually included the install of this specific fixture so I shouldn't owe anything for this. But the way they worded it I may end up screwed anyways. I just wanted to see what everyone's thoughts were for time. I thought 6 hours was insane, but maybe im wrong.

reply to rbnice1
It all depends on what your contract says. If it was in the plans that constitute the construction documents as bid, then it's their dime. How was it "they worded it"? That makes all the difference.

But yeah, six hours is a stretch.

reply to rbnice1
6 hours isnt too far off, seeing as the shower valve you have there has about 5x the piping of a typical shower valve+shower head. Also 5x the fittings and copper pipe, which you didnt state he asked for more material cost. Then theres another 20-30 mins of messin with trim and handles once the tile guys are done, and calibrating the temperature controls with a digital gauge..

so, thats not so far off. you want extras, you pay for extras.. 6 hours in a new house build of 200-500k is peanuts. Do it once, do it right.

(and yes i am a plumber)

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reply to rbnice1
Wow, I clicked the link, that is a ton of hardware!
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So the builder is saying that the plumber needs an additional 6 hours labor to install that shower.
Since you have a concern with this, why not call moem and ask the how much more time that shower should take to install compared to their basic unit. I bet it will be close.
Good luck with your new house.

reply to rbnice1
Personally I don't see 6 hours if it is all on one wall as in the link provided. However if the plumber has never installed one then there is learning time like reading the instructions, etc. I can easily see 3 or 4 hours though. I don't think you have any options if you want such a setup.

That is a whole lot of penetrations in the wall. Personally I would be concerned.

reply to rbnice1
Not to rain on your parade or anything, but in a world of low-flow shower heads and minimal water-use toilets and such (water conservation in general), how does one really justify putting in a system like this? If you take really quick showers, or if you are handicapped or something, then maybe I can see it; otherwise, not so much. I'm a bit surprised that they are even allowed to sell these, except maybe under special circumstances.

Specs say 2.5 gpm

reply to scross
Scross, the shower heads probably can't all work at the same time.
A bit like a typical shower and the bathtub faucet, it's one or the other, not both.

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reply to rbnice1
I wouldn't mind having that myself... Personally I'd like the entire ceiling to be a shower head but that gets expensive.