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andyross
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join:2003-05-04
Schaumburg, IL

What's the big deal?

Too many people use their DVR's for long-term storage. Presumably there are security codes and encryption on the stored data, and if you change your box, there goes all your recordings.

I also wonder just how much Comcast will charge to enable this feature?

Kearnstd
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I have heard that about other cable company DVRs that support external drives. a new box formats the drive.

It would have to be encrypted. the Media industry would never allow the feature to be enabled otherwise. If the box just dumped unencrypted Mpeg2 or Mpeg4 files right to the drive the media industry would throw a fit and fire off a full broadside from their lawsuit cannons. Gotta remember the media industry hates technology.
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rendrenner

join:2005-09-03
Grandville, MI
reply to andyross
No charge to enable.
The drive is a 1 TB drive. If the box is replaced, then the recordings will be lost. Soon as you plug it in to the new drive it will want to reformat it.

mogamer

join:2011-04-20
Royal Oak, MI
said by rendrenner:

No charge to enable.
The drive is a 1 TB drive. If the box is replaced, then the recordings will be lost. Soon as you plug it in to the new drive it will want to reformat it.

This is why I like my Dish dvr. The EHD is registered to your account and not to any individual dvr. So if your dvr dies, the recordings can still be watched on the replacement dvr. And those recordings can be watched on any dvr that is on your account. Makes things so much easier. While Dish only allows this on their HD dvrs, you can still use an EHD with up to 2TB of storage.

amungus
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join:2004-11-26
America
Interesting. Did not know Dish did that. Sounds like a good approach.

dishrich

join:2006-05-12
Springfield, IL
reply to andyross
said by andyross:

Too many people use their DVR's for long-term storage.

The "big deal" is - when your dealing with MPEG2 HD recording, it takes up probably DOUBLE the (HDD) space of MPEG4 HD. So IMHO, while a 500G HDD is "reasonable" for, say, either sat provider - it IS simply too small for any (current) cable system - or FiOS for that matter. Even Tivo realizes this, as their cheapest DVR only has 500g; the rest all start at 1TB+.

If/when they transition their HD all over to MPEG4, then it might be a different story...

If this actually DOES come to fruition, then it wouldn't be so bad in keeping their current Moto DCX series of DVR boxes. As long as it has enough HDD space & 30 second skip, I'm pretty happy with any DVR.

Presumably there are security codes and encryption on the stored data, and if you change your box, there goes all your recordings.

(as mogamer already posted at the same time I did )
Yes, but you do realize it does NOT have to be that way! DISH Network ties ALL your recordings to your account - & NOT to a specific receiver/access card. You can move recordings freely between external (multiple) hard drives, & even multiple receivers on your SAME account. This IS the way it should be from ANY TV provider.
Unfortunately, DirecTV ties recordings to a specific receiver/access card combo...been there, done that!

I also wonder just how much Comcast will charge to enable this feature?

Considering NEITHER DBS provider - or the other cable co. that offer this feature do, Comcast should NOT, either!

Chubbysumo

join:2009-12-01
Superior, WI
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reply to Kearnstd
said by Kearnstd:

I have heard that about other cable company DVRs that support external drives. a new box formats the drive.

It would have to be encrypted. the Media industry would never allow the feature to be enabled otherwise. If the box just dumped unencrypted Mpeg2 or Mpeg4 files right to the drive the media industry would throw a fit and fire off a full broadside from their lawsuit cannons. Gotta remember the media industry hates technology.

nope, its not encrypted at all, not really. There are easy ways to get it off the drive with some freeware out there, and its just encoded in MPEG2. TiVO has been allowing this for years. The fear is just that, a fear. The companies fear you will save everything and put it on the net. People do that already with capture cards and TV tuners with cableCARDs, so, its just another irrational fear.


caffeinator
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reply to dishrich
said by dishrich:

said by andyross:

Too many people use their DVR's for long-term storage.

The "big deal" is - when your dealing with MPEG2 HD recording, it takes up probably DOUBLE the (HDD) space of MPEG4 HD. So IMHO, while a 500G HDD is "reasonable" for, say, either sat provider - it IS simply too small for any (current) cable system - or FiOS for that matter. Even Tivo realizes this, as their cheapest DVR only has 500g; the rest all start at 1TB+.

If/when they transition their HD all over to MPEG4, then it might be a different story...

What is that crap?

That was my TV Capture card in Win98 days man, c'mon.

Nobody uses MPEG for anything anymore unless you do sh1t off yer digi cam or do DVD's which is stupid as rewritable HDD storage is actually cheaper per MB. Oh, and now most all units stream off the network...DLNA/Gaming console, etc. anyone?

Oh, and we have better GUI's than you'll ever have.
»xbmc.org/

The Scene groups have officially switched over to high quality MKV/MP4 now. A 40min show is like 130-350MB in damn good qual. Never any commercials, ever.

So, you are saying by default, that pirated is better quality than what you currently are allowed to PAY to DVR?

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join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
said by caffeinator:

Nobody uses MPEG for anything anymore

Too bad reality states otherwise. Almost everything in the broadcast world is still using MPEG(2).

Using MPEG4 or H.264 as a codec for scene groups is about reducing the size. Almost everything is ripped from sources using MPEG2 so you're not gaining any quality.