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zippoboy7

join:2006-06-18
USA
reply to jjoshua

Re: Record premium channel to VHS?

said by jjoshua:

Copy protection only works with HDMI connections.

Not true, have you ever tried to dub a DVD to a VHS using component or composite cables? You will find that the content recorded will mostly be a solid Blue screen with a few screens here and there. This may not be true on all VHS decks but any of the more recent ones (before they went extinct) will see the copy protection and block the video out. I haven't had any reason to break out my old VHS deck and try it but I would suspect the same things would be true if you try it from a DVR.

blue_trooper

join:2007-04-17
Exton, PA
said by zippoboy7:

I haven't had any reason to break out my old VHS deck and try it but I would suspect the same things would be true if you try it from a DVR.

It's not.

Composite or S-Video should work fine. I don't think I've ever seen a VHS machine with component inputs.

I copy Dexter all the time for friends at work using my VHS/DVD burner machine although I'm copying to DVD nowadays. Haven't touched a VHS in years.


bohratom
Jersey Shore is back again.

join:2011-07-07
Red Bank NJ
reply to zippoboy7
said by zippoboy7:

Not true, have you ever tried to dub a DVD to a VHS using component or composite cables? You will find that the content recorded will mostly be a solid Blue screen with a few screens here and there. This may not be true on all VHS decks but any of the more recent ones (before they went extinct) will see the copy protection and block the video out. I haven't had any reason to break out my old VHS deck and try it but I would suspect the same things would be true if you try it from a DVR.

That copy protection was macrovision and it will not have any impact regarding this situtation. Running a composite cable from the DVR to the VHS will be fine as FIOS DVR's to not implement macrovision.

Mac973

join:2009-05-18
West Orange, NJ
reply to blue_trooper
said by blue_trooper:

I copy Dexter all the time for friends at work using my VHS/DVD burner machine although I'm copying to DVD nowadays. Haven't touched a VHS in years.

I'm recording Homeland for a friend. I assumed recording to DVD wouldn't work. My friend has Comcast and tried to record HBO onto a DVD and it wouldn't work (that was using a composite connection since he doesn't even have an HD tv). Maybe Comcast receivers are different.

PJL

join:2008-07-24
Long Beach, CA
kudos:3
Reviews:
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reply to zippoboy7
said by zippoboy7:

said by jjoshua:

Copy protection only works with HDMI connections.

Not true, have you ever tried to dub a DVD to a VHS using component or composite cables? You will find that the content recorded will mostly be a solid Blue screen with a few screens here and there. This may not be true on all VHS decks but any of the more recent ones (before they went extinct) will see the copy protection and block the video out. I haven't had any reason to break out my old VHS deck and try it but I would suspect the same things would be true if you try it from a DVR.

The effects of copy pretection of which you speak come from the DVD media itself, not either the cable type or the VHS recorder. FiOS content does not use the same scheme as a DVD but rather uses copy flags similar to a Bluray disk, and the flags are only passed over the HDMI connection as jjoshua and bohratom pointed out.

blue_trooper

join:2007-04-17
Exton, PA
reply to Mac973
said by Mac973:

I assumed recording to DVD wouldn't work. My friend has Comcast and tried to record HBO onto a DVD and it wouldn't work (that was using a composite connection since he doesn't even have an HD tv). Maybe Comcast receivers are different.

Comcast Moto boxes are almost identical to the FIOS boxes other than the MOCA capability. It works fine for me using the S-Video out and stereo audio cables into a Lite-On VHS/DVD recorder.

tnsprin

join:2003-07-23
Bradenton, FL
kudos:1
Reviews:
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reply to zippoboy7
HDMI and Component support forms of copy protected. The HDMi will definitely block. Component should also be blocked, but not all units ever implemented that protection. Composite and svhs may have macrovision old style protections, which some recorders handle better than others.