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vue666
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Re: Canadian comes home from Guantanamo

said by A Lurker:
Again, so why wasn't his mother charged?

Great point...


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said by vue666:

Great point...

Yes, but I doubt any of those who support Omar's release will ever answer it. It's easier to ignore it. Again, I should note that my biggest concern is that his release in Canada will return him to the group that forced him into his original situation.

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said by vue666:

said by A Lurker:
Again, so why wasn't his mother charged?

Great point...

Not really...


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said by vue666:

said by A Lurker:
Again, so why wasn't his mother charged?

Great point...

Because she committed no crime?
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vue666
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But I thought the argument is he was a child soldier brainwashed by his parents...

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Meh, encouraging your kid to become a child soldier at age 10 (in violation of UN treaty as you said) should be SOME sort of crime....

Contributing to the delinquency of a minor, we'd call it here....

But it looks like when the family sent the boy to terror camp, they were not living in Canada....

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said by vue666:

But I thought the argument is he was a child soldier brainwashed by his parents...

Please cite the specific offence you believe she committed. Not what you think should be illegal, or what you think she should be charged with -- a specific contravention of Canadian law you believe she committed.

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Did she send any money overseas? Charge her with financial support of terrorists.


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said by vue666:

But I thought the argument is he was a child soldier brainwashed by his parents...

Yep, he's innocent because he was forced into becoming a child soldier by his parents. However, they're not guilty of any crime. That's exactly my point I made in pretty much my first post in the thread. Blinders by his supporters.


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said by A Lurker:

Yep, he's innocent because he was forced into becoming a child soldier by his parents. However, they're not guilty of any crime. That's exactly my point I made in pretty much my first post in the thread. Blinders by his supporters.

Well, if you've avoided the blinders you are accusing others of wearing, please answer this question (she = his mother):

said by NCRGuy:

Please cite the specific offence you believe she committed. Not what you think should be illegal, or what you think she should be charged with -- a specific contravention of Canadian law you believe she committed.

Note the word "specific" please. You never know.....perhaps you'll help others become "blinder free" as well.
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Re: Canadian comes home from Guantanamo

said by Bob4:

Did she send any money overseas? Charge her with financial support of terrorists.

Evidence?
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said by A Lurker:

said by vue666:

But I thought the argument is he was a child soldier brainwashed by his parents...

Yep, he's innocent because he was forced into becoming a child soldier by his parents. However, they're not guilty of any crime. That's exactly my point I made in pretty much my first post in the thread. Blinders by his supporters.

I guess organized crime in Canada should hop on this glaring loophole in our legal system and train an army of mercenaries to kill their rivals. Heck train them to kill anyone randomly who doesn't pay up or train them to rob banks. Heck one could train your kid to kill your boss or that brother in law who is a dick.

That's right people of the world if you are a Canadian citizen you are free to spew your hate, commit treason and train your kids to kill with impunity.


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said by peterboro:

That's right people of the world if you are a Canadian citizen you are free to spew your hate, commit treason and train your kids to kill with impunity.

Father is dead. Mother is isolated. Your point?
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said by DKS:

said by Bob4:

Did she send any money overseas? Charge her with financial support of terrorists.

Evidence?

I'm not the prosecutor. Not my job to collect evidence. But I bet dollars to donuts they sent money to terrorists.

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said by DKS:

said by peterboro:

That's right people of the world if you are a Canadian citizen you are free to spew your hate, commit treason and train your kids to kill with impunity.

Father is dead. Mother is isolated. Your point?

Fathers now excused. Mother's isolation is relevant how?
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Re: Canadian comes home from Guantanamo

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Fathers now excused. Mother's isolation is relevant how?

We're supposed to feel sorry for her. Too bad she felt that she couldn't get decent medical treatment and social assistance for her injured son, except in Canada. She's stated publically more than once that she would be happy if they all died martyrs. We should pity her, sending her 10 year old son off to be a child soldier. God forbid we hold her responsible. /sarcasm off
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Re: Canadian comes home from Guantanamo

said by DKS:

said by peterboro:

That's right people of the world if you are a Canadian citizen you are free to spew your hate, commit treason and train your kids to kill with impunity.

Father is dead. Mother is isolated. Your point?

Then who is responsible for him becoming a "child soldier"???


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said by DKS:
Why would your rights and priviluiges as a citizen be any different from his? If you believe that, you just tossed the Charter into the dumpster.
Upon his release I would assume he will have to meet regularly with a parole officer of some sort, be denied complete freedom of travel, probably barred from entering the USA and a other countries, because of his criminal record he may not be allowed to hold certain public positions, be under some sort of surveillance, etc ... In other words he will not have the same rights and priviliges as most law abiding Canadians...


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said by vue666:

said by DKS:
Why would your rights and priviluiges as a citizen be any different from his? If you believe that, you just tossed the Charter into the dumpster.
Upon his release I would assume he will have to meet regularly with a parole officer of some sort, be denied complete freedom of travel, probably barred from entering the USA and a other countries, because of his criminal record he may not be allowed to hold certain public positions, etc ... In other words he will not have the same rights and privilidges as most law abiding Canadians...

For all you know he could become the next prime minister, or human rights laywer and make more of his life than you have.

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said by vue666:

said by DKS:

said by peterboro:

That's right people of the world if you are a Canadian citizen you are free to spew your hate, commit treason and train your kids to kill with impunity.

Father is dead. Mother is isolated. Your point?

Then who is responsible for him becoming a "child soldier"???

Still waiting for you to answer my question.


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said by A Lurker:

God forbid we hold her responsible. /sarcasm off

And how would you propose we do that? She has broken no law.
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DKS
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said by vue666:

said by DKS:
Why would your rights and priviluiges as a citizen be any different from his? If you believe that, you just tossed the Charter into the dumpster.
Upon his release I would assume he will have to meet regularly with a parole officer of some sort, be denied complete freedom of travel, probably barred from entering the USA and a other countries, because of his criminal record he may not be allowed to hold certain public positions, be under some sort of surveillance, etc ... In other words he will not have the same rights and priviliges as most law abiding Canadians...

Only when on parole. After that, just the same as you.
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said by DKS:

said by A Lurker:

God forbid we hold her responsible. /sarcasm off

And how would you propose we do that? She has broken no law.

How do you know that? You have access to all the classified information the US has?


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said by Bob4:

said by DKS:

said by A Lurker:

God forbid we hold her responsible. /sarcasm off

And how would you propose we do that? She has broken no law.

How do you know that? You have access to all the classified information the US has?

One presumes that at this late date, she would have been charged. Absence of any charge speaks volumes.
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said by DKS:

One presumes that at this late date, she would have been charged. Absence of any charge speaks volumes.

Ummm... No.

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said by shrug :

For all you know he could become the next prime minister, or human rights laywer and make more of his life than you have.

Apparently he wants to go to high school, university, and see if he can get into med school.

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said by Bob4:

said by DKS:

said by A Lurker:

God forbid we hold her responsible. /sarcasm off

And how would you propose we do that? She has broken no law.

How do you know that? You have access to all the classified information the US has?

What 'classified information'?
Do you mean the stuff with the same factual accuracy as got the US mired in Iraq and bled your Treasury dry?