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[MoP] assassination or subtlety for pve, mist of pandaria

I had to switch to combat again, most of not all bosses have adds, nothing's better to hit 2 targets all the time with blade flurry, and during lust hit all my new CDs, I'm also an orc, and I'll take that 4500 AP from racial anytime.. use it with shadow blades and trinket = tons of burst damage (I hit above the 100K dps mark during burst)

reply to Curious1
I've done all my levelling and dailies as assassination and it's been fine. My heroics have been decent, but I'm still rocking the legendaries, so my dps is gimped a bit. I've still only gotten one dagger to drop, so I'll keep rolling until I get another.

For next week's raid, I'll be combat though. Like djlar said, seems like every encounter has adds, and blade flurry makes combat almost mandatory for those fights.

reply to djlar
Thanks for the quick reply Also with combat there is no need to have 2 daggers right ? can use fist weapon +fist weapon ?

combat:

sword/sword
mace/mace
axe/axe
fist weapon/fist weapon

with any combination of the above acceptable MH always has a slow weapon and OH can have a dagger or a slow weapon. Combat is all good.

reply to djlar
for boss with no adds does combat still come up on top ? shadow pan dungeon comes to mind for single boss fights

reply to Curious1
When I checked noxxic over the weekend their simcraft said sub was pulling about 92k in T14 normal, with all raid buffs and boss debuffs available, followed by combat at 89k and muti at 86k.
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He who controls the Spice, controls the universe.

yea thats what i read too, maybe i am doing something wrong or my stats priority is just not right ....If someone can armory my toon and take a look i would be very grateful .

Toon name - Kickthehabit(orc rogue)
Server - trollbane

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reply to Curious1

couple things, i know .22 % hit is not much but it does help try to squeeze that in, and you not enchanted or gemmed so i would say that youre doing fine you dont have anything to complain about.

i would ask why you reforged 674 haste to get to 659 haste? keep more haste, squeeze some more crit or something to get your hit to 7.5 and then worry about mastery.

oh youre a rogue youre not hindered by a wasted global, drop the +60 expertise for a hit or haste gem

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Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau!
"What happened in here?" " Seems to have been a bit of a squabble." "They're all dead!" " More of a tif then."

Thank you for looking at my gear . When i get home i will look at the haste i reforged out, i was trying to follow the mastery >haste logic.Which one of the following is the right stat priority i get confused as different websites say different

1) Agil>hit+exp>mastery>haste>crit

Or
2) Agil >hit+exp>haste>mastery>crit

so expertise is not that important for a rogue ?

I havent read anything on MoP rogue as Ive swittched to monk, but for previous rogue stats it was

Agil>hit+exp>haste/crit/mastery..

Im not certain if the new talents make mastery more worth it, but it was the worst for sub previously. With the 90 patch thats the itemization i was using at 85 and it was legit.

Sub requires a lot of micro management that other rogue specs dont require. It is a bit more difficult while learnign the fights to maintian a proper rotation if you arent well versed in the nuances of sub. Try out lolbladeflurry if your worried about meters. If I get sat for raid tonight ill probably level up my rogue a bit and test the sub waters(damn out of town weekend wedding cutting into my heroic grind)

reply to Curious1
technically no, if you have energy you can hit shit, hince why you are not hurt by a wasted global cause if you have the energy then boom hit his ass, this is where haste helps its not end all but it helps with energy regen when you arent in a burn phase, blowing cooldowns. mastery for sub, bleed damage is great, but if youre resource starved then it does fuck all. i would say mastery mathematically wins out over haste but not by that much, hit is the important stat, as for exp when youre out doing dailies or w/e it may take you a bit longer to stab a bitch in the ass but, in a raid or dungeon, where the mob should be focused on a tank then you shouldnt see a noticeable difference from 7.5 to 6.5 exp.

so i would go agi>hit>mastery>= haste>exp>crit
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Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau!
"What happened in here?" " Seems to have been a bit of a squabble." "They're all dead!" " More of a tif then."

the exp is for sub, sub really doesnt have an effective aoe, even with the new and improved talents, if its a heavy aoe fight switch to com or muti
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Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau!
"What happened in here?" " Seems to have been a bit of a squabble." "They're all dead!" " More of a tif then."

sub/muti = dag/dag

com refer to Skittles list