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CharterTech

join:2012-08-06

[HSI] Users may experience slower connection speeds if torrentin

Just as the subject says staring next Monday we will slow your connection speed down if we monitor and notice you downloading copy right materials from torrents.


Carl
Premium
join:2004-07-21
Opelousas, LA

Re: [HSI] Users may experience slower connection speeds if torre

Slow it down to what?

speedxdesign

join:2010-02-25
Alexandria, MN

reply to CharterTech
I am grabbing the popcorn, this thread should end well.

We can't even get a legitimate way to check our bandwidth usage and they are setting up things that may or may not be able to correctly decipher what type of data we are using.

I really hope all the fiber being laid in this town is someone else.


CharterTech

join:2012-08-06

reply to CharterTech
It will be slowed down to 15Mbps on the first offense for 30 days from first offense. Seconds offense 10Mbps for 30 days.

If two or more offenses happen in a month 500Kbps.



cork1958
Cork
Premium
join:2000-02-26

reply to CharterTech

said by speedxdesign:

I am grabbing the popcorn, this thread should end well.

We can't even get a legitimate way to check our bandwidth usage and they are setting up things that may or may not be able to correctly decipher what type of data we are using.

I really hope all the fiber being laid in this town is someone else.

+1

Is this only if you have exceeded your cap or are you guys simply going to be monitoring EVERYTHING we do on the net?

Cripe! Who's the brain dead individual that keeps coming up with the totally stupid ideas Charter has started deployng lately? Are you people TRYING to lose customers?

Personally,
I have NEVER used any torrents and I think that is one of the slowest and dumbest ways to get anything any how, so monitor away!!
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Inafine

@charter.com

reply to CharterTech
That's good. I've forwarded this information to several hundred other customers in my regional area as well as other technology/media forums. I am sure you want your customers to know that you are doing all you can to end the reprehensible practice of file sharing.



vaxvms
ferroequine fan
Premium
join:2005-03-01
Wormtown

reply to CharterTech
So Charter will knowingly reduce service but won't reduce the cost to the customer?
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It's not really power unless you abuse it.


desarollo

join:2011-10-01
Monroe, MI

reply to cork1958

said by cork1958:

Personally,
I have NEVER used any torrents and I think that is one of the slowest and dumbest ways to get anything any how, so monitor away!!

Ever play World of Warcraft? They use it for upgrade distribution, and it's a legitimate useful protocol for distributing huge amounts of data around the world.

When my son upgraded his copy, his 12G download saturated Charter's 100M service. For well seeded sources like Wow, it works like a champ.

Charter is going to fall all over themselves as they step on very legal and legitimate users of torrents. They, like you, view the use as nothing but copyright infringement and that is very far from the truth. While I don't agree with stealing content, this is just another step in service agnostic internet access slowly being constrained into what corporations will permit us to enjoy.

DA

join:2002-04-13
Greenville, SC

reply to CharterTech

I suspect that this individual is pointing out the ISP "6 strikes" copyright enforcement agreement with the RIAA/MPAA:
»arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011···nt-plan/

»yro.slashdot.org/story/12/07/13/···-delayed

I guess the techs have been given training on it or are now being told it is coming down. I think it is just the same system as today where the RIAA/MPAA sends Charter a letter and Charter passes it on to the customer but this time there is a predefined set of "strikes".

I never download anything illegal but this bothers me anyway since it strikes me as a private organization playing judge and jury on someones access to the internet but I guess we will see how it goes.


battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

reply to speedxdesign
"I am grabbing the popcorn, this thread should end well."

This should be rather entertaining. I am sure there will be plenty of people who fall for this troll's post believing that Charter would choose to release this information to the public via some unverified account on DSLR.
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zed260
Premium
join:2011-11-11
Cleveland, TN

reply to CharterTech
there need to use dpi for this last time they tried that it didnt end well big pr mess

the six strikes plan would probably go over better with end users in general i suspect



AMDUSER
Premium
join:2003-05-28
Earth
kudos:1

There are ways around it.. such as using a secure / encryped vpn service... that allows torrents.
.. And make sure they are not US based!


zed260
Premium
join:2011-11-11
Cleveland, TN
Reviews:
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reply to CharterTech
on twitter charter said the following

@zed260 @Charter While those specifics are not verified, we do reserve the right to do so as can be read here: bit.ly/RU4Jvy

so they reserve the right but not commenting on this supposedly also they reserve that right on business connections to


speedxdesign

join:2010-02-25
Alexandria, MN

reply to CharterTech
So, Charter is going to act as the RIAA judge, jury and executioner. So much for due process.

Good to see Charter standing up for the rights of their customers. *rollseyes*



BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

said by speedxdesign:

So, Charter is going to act as the RIAA judge, jury and executioner. So much for due process.

A) where are you getting that from?

B) due process? I'm sorry are you being CRIMINALLY charged?


BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to desarollo

said by desarollo:

said by cork1958:

Personally,
I have NEVER used any torrents and I think that is one of the slowest and dumbest ways to get anything any how, so monitor away!!

Ever play World of Warcraft? They use it for upgrade distribution, and it's a legitimate useful protocol for distributing huge amounts of data around the world.

When my son upgraded his copy, his 12G download saturated Charter's 100M service. For well seeded sources like Wow, it works like a champ.

Charter is going to fall all over themselves as they step on very legal and legitimate users of torrents. They, like you, view the use as nothing but copyright infringement and that is very far from the truth. While I don't agree with stealing content, this is just another step in service agnostic internet access slowly being constrained into what corporations will permit us to enjoy.

Sorry your son doesn't need to "seed" anything. Very few "legit" uses of torrents. yes there are SOME so don't go saying I said all torrents are illegal.

WoW can use some other way of delivering it's content.

speedxdesign

join:2010-02-25
Alexandria, MN

reply to BF69
I am assuming this is part of their strike process. Which SHOULD be a case for civil court. This is the RIAA circumventing the court process to actually PROVE that someone is doing something wrong and Charter looks like they are willing to act as their enforcer instead of making them use the right process.



Packeteers
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join:2005-06-18
Forest Hills, NY
kudos:1
Reviews:
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·Verizon Online DSL

reply to CharterTech

said by CharterTech:

It will be slowed down to 15Mbps on the first offense for 30 days from first offense. Seconds offense 10Mbps for 30 days. If two or more offenses happen in a month 500Kbps.

who exactly are you, and why should we believe this.

where do you get this information - link to it please.

zed260
Premium
join:2011-11-11
Cleveland, TN

reply to CharterTech
well karl bode is contacting charters pr department for comment ill post here if/when i hear anything from him about a response



IowaMan
Premium
join:2008-08-21
Grinnell, IA

reply to Packeteers
I know if the rep was official, there would be a logo as well as a tag for VIP and or offcial tech support


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