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KrK
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reply to Noah Vail

Re: November is coming

Well, that means you can't vote for Republicans or Democrats, so you have to vote for independents.

Came into being under the Bush Administration, continued by the Obama administration, and supported by Romney.

The only people who have been against it are some Democrats.

There's no choice here ATM for anyone who would curtail this.
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Noah Vail
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said by KrK:

Well, that means you can't vote for Republicans or Democrats, so you have to vote for independents.

Came into being under the Bush Administration, continued by the Obama administration, and supported by Romney.

The only people who have been against it are some Democrats.

There's no choice here ATM for anyone who would curtail this.

I've voted conservative/Republican most of my life.

However I'll vote for anyone who stands up for our privacy in a way that matters.

said by FISA 2008 Wiki :

Senators who voted to remove telecom immunity, but ended up voting for bill with telecom immunity intact: Baucus (D-MT), Casey (D-PA), Obama (D-IL), Whitehouse (D-RI)


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reply to KrK

said by KrK:

Well, that means you can't vote for Republicans or Democrats, so you have to vote for independents.

because all Republicans and Democrats were for it, right?


KrK
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Here's the full list:

FOR:

Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Allard (R-CO), Yea
Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Casey (D-PA), Yea
Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Coleman (R-MN), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Corker (R-TN), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
DeMint (R-SC), Yea
Dole (R-NC), Yea
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagel (R-NE), Yea
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Martinez (R-FL), Yea
McCaskill (D-MO), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Obama (D-IL), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Smith (R-OR), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Sununu (R-NH), Yea
Thune (R-SD), Yea
Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Webb (D-VA), Yea
Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
Wicker (R-MS), Yea

Against:

Akaka (D-HI), Nay
Biden (D-DE), Nay
Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
Boxer (D-CA), Nay
Brown (D-OH), Nay
Byrd (D-WV), Nay
Cantwell (D-WA), Nay
Cardin (D-MD), Nay
Clinton (D-NY), Nay
Dodd (D-CT), Nay
Dorgan (D-ND), Nay
Durbin (D-IL), Nay
Feingold (D-WI), Nay
Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Kerry (D-MA), Nay
Klobuchar (D-MN), Nay
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Levin (D-MI), Nay
Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
Murray (D-WA), Nay
Reed (D-RI), Nay
Reid (D-NV), Nay
Sanders (I-VT), Nay
Schumer (D-NY), Nay
Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Tester (D-MT), Nay
Wyden (D-OR), Nay

Not Voting:
Kennedy (D-MA), Not Voting
McCain (R-AZ), Not Voting
Sessions (R-AL), Not Voting

So in Summary:

ALL the Republicans and many of the Democrats, FOR.

A solid block of Democrats & an Independent (The Liberal Block, looks like) AGAINST.
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KrK
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Not quite, many were.

The Liberal block of Democrats was fairly solid in opposition and continues to be the opposition to this.
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Noah Vail
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Both of mine from Florida voted for it.

Nelson was on a very short list of FL-D I supported.
As FL's Insurance Commissioner, he was sharp and very pro Floridian. As Senator, he made other choices.

*sigh* It's another choiceless election year.
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KrK
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I have a very similar problem.

None of the parties represent my values, it's a mix. I'm always having to do the lesser of two evils, or which one sucks more.

I strongly identify with several "Conservative" ideals and several "Liberal" ones so I'm always pretty screwed when it comes to voting... LOL
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Noah Vail
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said by KrK:

The Liberal block of Democrats was fairly solid in opposition and continues to be the opposition to this.

But most of them were still spinning it as a telco tapping issue instead of an internet data dump.

It absolutely killed me to have to admit which Senators were honest about the issue.
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Skippy25

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Hazelwood, MO
reply to KrK

said by KrK:

None of the parties represent my values, it's a mix.

That is true of just about everyone. However, you still have way to many lazy morons that will vote party line instead of doing their homework and voting for the ones that actually are more in line with their values.


KrK
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Maybe it's because I live in Oklahoma, but around here, it's just not true. (The statement about it being a mix for most people.)



This is a sad joke, but it's very appropriate if you've ever been here.

How Oklahoma votes:

(R) behind name: All that is Good, anointed of God
(D) behind name: Everything wrong with the country, agents of Satan

/sigh

Ok maybe that's a bit of overkill, but the it's been going that way for years and continues to grow worse... Hell it can cost your job if you speak up to counter some of the pure BS that everyone always spreads back and forth. Great, eh?

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I remember as a young person, I voted straight party line Democrat. As I grew older and had more skin in the game my support of Democrat agenda items fell by the wayside and I started voting on issues. Every 4 years I have to make a painful decision on who to vote for as President. Sadly ,even voting by issue has not worked but at least I voted!