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chances14

join:2010-03-03
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reply to DrStrangLov

Re: [Exede] Exede and DSL

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Other than DAP Bucket, Exede works just fine, for a non gamer.
latency affects more than just gamers. https web pages load like dial up. and there is always the odd website or program that you may use that won't load or work properly due to the high latency.

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ViaSat's CEO has indicated Exede will not be overstuffed, as in intentional overstuffing
a CEO's word is about as trustworthy as a politician on capital hill.

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Contrary to a myth, all DSLs are not equal in quality, speed, and latency.

Unless a DSL provider has state of the art equipment, YMMV, depending upon their infrastructure, and your distance to central office.

There have been a number of law suits against DSL providers with inferior service being the focus of the law suit.

DSL providers, the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is the reality.
there have also been a number of lawsuits against satellite providers. There are always going to be a minority of people who have terrible service with any provider.

DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28

said by chances14:

latency affects more than just gamers

Unless one has used Exede, they would be cluesless on this topic, when gamers are excluded.

And yes, HTTPS page load is slow on WISPs with WiMax, but in reality, most all users are not visiting HTTPS sites all the time. I use 3 mbps down WiMax (WISP) at work, and https sites take about same time to load as on Exede.

Latency is not an issue for most all users, having much faster download speeds brings about a time trade-off. A low latency DSL with much slower speed will not load faster when compared to satellite with high download speed.

I've cited literature before, but there are sites that take several seconds to load with low latency DSL, but with Exede, their servers can catch much faster and deliver content much quicker on non https pages.

Do the research, satellite can kick butt with 12 mbps plus download speeds when compared to much lower DSL speeds.

silbaco

join:2009-08-03
USA

said by DrStrangLov:

said by chances14:

latency affects more than just gamers

Unless one has used Exede, they would be cluesless on this topic, when gamers are excluded.

And yes, HTTPS page load is slow on WISPs with WiMax, but in reality, most all users are not visiting HTTPS sites all the time. I use 3 mbps down WiMax (WISP) at work, and https sites take about same time to load as on Exede.

Latency is not an issue for most all users, having much faster download speeds brings about a time trade-off. A low latency DSL with much slower speed will not load faster when compared to satellite with high download speed.

I've cited literature before, but there are sites that take several seconds to load with low latency DSL, but with Exede, their servers can catch much faster and deliver content much quicker on non https pages.

Do the research, satellite can kick butt with 12 mbps plus download speeds when compared to much lower DSL speeds.

You must have a bad wimax connection.

Speed can play a roll, but above 5mbps I would say it is hardly noticeable. A low latency 5mbps DSL connection will blow any satellite other than O3B out of the water. Caching or not. When it comes to https, there is no comparison.

said by bobvick:

I called CenturyLink today, I am getting a second DSL connection, up to 10 Mbps (probably will be 4.0, unless the tech that comes out discovers the lines are in a good enough quality for a faster provision), for $29 per month, NO contract like Exede would have been, and the data limit is 250GB per month. I am going to try a SysWAN Duolinks SW24 dual WAN router for load balancing with my current 4.0 setup, maybe this will do what I was wanting in the first place which is not so much a lot more speed (although that would be nice) but less congestion on my home network.

Hope it works for you. That would be great if it were actually 10mbps. How soon will it be in?

DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28

said by silbaco:

Speed can play a roll, but above 5mbps I would say it is hardly noticeable. A low latency 5mbps DSL connection

Many DSL users don't have 5 mbps plus connections, that's the rub.

Look at FCC's data above in the picture....when running around one mbps DSL, satellite will kick butt on many web pages...that's my point.

Like I stated, exclude gamers, and most folks would not have an issue with Exede; latency is not a big issue...its the download speed.

bobvick
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join:2008-04-01
Brilliant, AL
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reply to silbaco

said by silbaco:

Hope it works for you. That would be great if it were actually 10mbps. How soon will it be in?

They could have came today and put it in, but I am out of town, so it will be next Friday before the local tech comes out. I wish I could get them to replace the line that comes in to the network interface from the telephone pole about 200ft away from my house. I am the only residence that the pole serves. I think that years ago when the cable was laid (1987) they used a lot of extra because evidently who ever laid the cable got paid by the foot. It would be nice if the lines could be clean enough to get more than the 4.0, but I bet that is the limit as it stands now.

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