 TSI MartinPremium join:2006-02-23 Chatham, ON kudos:23 | reply to cowwoc
Re: Bell: We don't provide same service to Teksavvy customers Which modem do you have? Cellpipe or Sagemcom?
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 cowwoc join:2007-05-19 St John'S, NL | Sagemcom 2864 |
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 cowwoc join:2007-05-19 St John'S, NL | reply to TSI Martin
Martin,
I've attached my speed test results above (from speedtest.teksavvy.com) and here are my line stats:
# sysutil xdslmon
Line Status : Port is in Showtime Mode : 0x1000000 (VDSL2 Profile 12A ) Upstream Payload Rate : 2432 kbps Downstream : 22584 kbps ================================================= DIAG Info: ================================================= Attenuation ( dB ) : 38.0 9.50 (FE LATNpb-0) 61.00 (FE LATNpb-1) 102.30 (FE LATNpb-2) 102.30 (FE LATNpb-3) 102.30 (FE LATNpb-4) SNR margin ( dB ) : 5.8 6.40 (FE SNRMpb-0) 6.50 (FE SNRMpb-1) 0.00 (FE SNRMpb-2) -51.20 (FE SNRMpb-3) -51.20 (FE SNRMpb-4) US Aggregate Power : 8.2 dbm DS Attainable Data Rate: 22584 kbps US Attainable Data Rate: 2393 kbps HEC counter : HEC_F:0 HEC_S:0 CRC counter : CRC_F:0 CRC_S: 0
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 cowwoc join:2007-05-19 St John'S, NL | reply to TSI Martin Further update, here is my extended port status:
Extended Port Status ================= Bme: 1 Port: 1 Downstream line rate: 26180 kbps Upstream line rate: 2880 kbps Bearer0 Downstream payload rate: 0 kbps Bearer1 Downstream payload rate: 22584 kbps Bearer0 Upstream payload rate: 0 kbps Bearer1 Upstream payload rate: 2432 kbps Downstream attainable payload rate: 22584 kbps Downstream attainable line rate: 28224 kbps Downstream Training Margin: 6.0 dB Downstream Line Protection (Bearer1 Path): 0.0 DMT Symbols Upstream Line Protection (Bearer1 Path): 0.0 DMT Symbols Near-end ITU Vendor Id: 0xb500494b4e530200 Far-end ITU Vendor Id: 0xb5004244434da194 Downstream delay: 7.5 ms Upstream delay: 6.1 ms Tx total power 8.2 dbm FE Tx total power 14.3 dbm VDSL Estimated Loop Length : 3426 ft G.Hs Estimated Near End Loop Length : 2465 ft G.Hs Estimated Far End Loop Length :0 ft Current framing mode: 0x10 EFM Bandplan Type...........: 2 No. of Upstream Bands...: 2 No. of Downstream Bands.: 1 Line Type: 0x01000000 VDSL2 Profile 12A Downstream FFT Protection (Bearer1 Path): 1.0 DMT Symbols Upstream FFT Protection (Bearer1 Path): 1.0 DMT Symbols Upstream Line Attenuation: NA (Only for ADSL1 & T1.413) Upstream SNR Margin: NA (Only for ADSL1 & T1413) Upstream Retransmission status: Disabled Downstream Retransmission status: Disabled
It looks like someone is purposefully capping me at 2880 kbps up (although I only get around 2.1Mbps).
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 HiVoltPremium join:2000-12-28 Toronto, ON kudos:18 | VDSL Estimated Loop Length : 3426 ft
Looks like the distance is the culprit here... |
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 cowwoc join:2007-05-19 St John'S, NL | said by HiVolt:VDSL Estimated Loop Length : 3426 ft
Looks like the distance is the culprit here... That's my gut feeling too, although the Bell tech said it was 700 meters, not 1km like this seems to indicate. Technically speaking, couldn't Bell improve the situation by upgrading their box or adding an additional box closer to my location?
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 | said by cowwoc:Technically speaking, couldn't Bell improve the situation by upgrading their box or adding an additional box closer to my location?
Sure. Open a ticket and ask them to do just that. LOL |
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 DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages join:2009-06-15 START&Cogeco kudos:6 | reply to cowwoc said by cowwoc:....Technically speaking, couldn't Bell improve the situation by upgrading their box or adding an additional box closer to my location? Bell could do all KINDS of things !
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 cowwoc join:2007-05-19 St John'S, NL | reply to MaynardKrebs Couldn't Bell add an additional upload channel from the box to my home? That sounds cheap enough (cheaper than adding a new box or paying for an extensive upgrade).
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 kovy join:2009-03-26 kudos:8 | said by cowwoc:Couldn't Bell add an additional upload channel from the box to my home? That sounds cheap enough (cheaper than adding a new box or paying for an extensive upgrade).
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| reply to cowwoc said by cowwoc:Couldn't Bell add an additional upload channel from the box to my home? No. You're running into physical limitations of the wiring. |
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 cowwoc join:2007-05-19 St John'S, NL | said by bt:said by cowwoc:Couldn't Bell add an additional upload channel from the box to my home? No. You're running into physical limitations of the wiring. I understand I'm running into the physical limitation of a single wire, but can't Bell bond multiple wires (say one meant for my neighbor which isn't using DSL) to promise me faster service?
Is DSL bonding really my only realistic option? My house is using one line for DSL and the other for phone/alarm system. Wouldn't the second DSL run into interference with existing services?
Is it possible for me to bond two DSL connections with differing speeds? Perhaps I could get a cheap/slow second connection and use it purely to augment my upload speed? The cheapest option I see is DSL 6/0.8 for $30 but I'm paying for the extra download speed and bandwidth I don't need. Is there a cheaper option?
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 kovy join:2009-03-26 kudos:8 | said by cowwoc:said by bt:said by cowwoc:Couldn't Bell add an additional upload channel from the box to my home? No. You're running into physical limitations of the wiring. I understand I'm running into the physical limitation of a single wire, but can't Bell bond multiple wires (say one meant for my neighbor which isn't using DSL) to promise me faster service? Is DSL bonding really my only realistic option? My house is using one line for DSL and the other for phone/alarm system. Wouldn't the second DSL run into interference with existing services? Is it possible for me to bond two DSL connections with differing speeds? Perhaps I could get a cheap/slow second connection and use it purely to augment my upload speed? The cheapest option I see is DSL 6/0.8 for $30 but I'm paying for the extra download speed and bandwidth I don't need. Is there a cheaper option? Thanks, Gili There's nothing else can do... Unless your line has a physical issue... they won't do anything else.
Bonding is between you and your ISP, and usually it's better to have lines at the same speed. |
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 | reply to cowwoc said by cowwoc:Couldn't Bell add an additional upload channel from the box to my home? That sounds cheap enough (cheaper than adding a new box or paying for an extensive upgrade).
You could probably run your own transatlantic fibre-optic cable from your front door to Europe faster and cheaper than Bell could give you an upgrade. |
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 cowwoc join:2007-05-19 St John'S, NL | said by MaynardKrebs:said by cowwoc:Couldn't Bell add an additional upload channel from the box to my home? That sounds cheap enough (cheaper than adding a new box or paying for an extensive upgrade).
You could probably run your own transatlantic fibre-optic cable from your front door to Europe faster and cheaper than Bell could give you an upgrade. I have two co-workers abroad. One is in Bulgaria, another in Serbia. They have 64Mbps and 32Mbps connections, respectively, for less than $30/month.
Serbia!!! Come on people! Canada is such a third-world country when it comes to internet. |
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And I'll bet that on an income adjusted & "delivered bitrate"** basis that their service is a lot cheaper too.
** delivered bitrate = the actual measured bitrate available at the user premises, NOT the advertised speed. |
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 komi join:2011-07-08 North York, ON | reply to cowwoc Just go a bit south (Romania) and for $30 you'll get internet-50Mbps, cable TV with 10 HD channels and home phone-VOIP. Now that's a hot deal! |
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 brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON | reply to MaynardKrebs said by MaynardKrebs:You could probably run your own transatlantic fibre-optic cable from your front door to Europe faster and cheaper than Bell could give you an upgrade. Let's see him come up with the couple billion dollars first  |
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 | said by brad:said by MaynardKrebs:You could probably run your own transatlantic fibre-optic cable from your front door to Europe faster and cheaper than Bell could give you an upgrade. Let's see him come up with the couple billion dollars first And even if it took him a while to do that, it would still be cheaper & faster than waiting for Bell. |
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 | reply to cowwoc said by cowwoc:said by HiVolt:VDSL Estimated Loop Length : 3426 ft
Looks like the distance is the culprit here... That's my gut feeling too, although the Bell tech said it was 700 meters, not 1km like this seems to indicate. Technically speaking, couldn't Bell improve the situation by upgrading their box or adding an additional box closer to my location? Gili LOOK if they can give you 25 megabit down they cuold give you 10 up and just give you 20 megabit down or some such , htere jsut lazy do nothing pricks |
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