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rcdailey
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Re: Oracle Java SE 7u9 and 6u37 released

Yes, I just checked and the control panel is gone from "settings." I had done updates on one other XP system, but did not check that one. I suspect the answer will be the same. I am sure that the Win 7 systems still show the control panel, but will check them later. I am considering uninstalling Java and re-installing it to see if that restores the control panel.

Later . . . .
I uninstalled Java (used RevoUninstaller) and noted that update 9 is installed in the same folder as update 7, which RevoUninstaller warned about. I cleaned everything out anyway. I then downloaded the offline installer for Java and ran that. I got it installed, and it seemed to install more quickly than when I just did the update via the control panel. Also, once the installation was complete, the control panel was again available in "settings." To make sure that there were no other versions of Java left anywhere on my system, I ran JavaRa.

Things seem to be working, but the bit about both update 7 and update 9 being in the same folder may have something to do with the control panel disappearing when the internal updater was used.

I'd suggest that if you have the time and are using XP, just uninstall and clean out Java, then download the offline installer and reinstall Jave that way. That will probably work better.

One more thing to add. I enabled Java in Firefox and it works, but seems to load slowly. IE8, on the other hand, loads Java fast. Chrome seems to have the same problem as Firefox, so if anyone else notices this, then maybe Oracle has some more work to do.

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Name Game
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Yup that is one way..but what I had them do is this

COPY C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\javacpl.cpl to C:\WINDOWS\system32\javacpl.cpl

which it failed to do..and that was easier for them..there is a javacpl.cpl in the bin..and it is easy to copy and paste it in the system32 folder. All three then found they had access again to the Java(TM) control panel but as we suspected it was set again by default to do that auto update crap..even though in 7u7 it was set to never do that.
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StuartMW
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said by Name Game:

...but as we suspected it was set again by default to do that auto update crap..even though in 7u7 it was set to never do that.

That is par for the course these days. Just about everyone (Adobe, Apple, Oracle, etc) ignore previous preferences and sometimes even the ones you select at install time and enable/re-enable auto updating.

I actually have a mental checklist to go disable/uninstall auto-updating. I also check to see if any services were added and remove them if they were.
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Name Game
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Same here..but in that case of XP..one could not even access that panel GUI for Java..I also have them go into the advanced tab and change a few things in there iif they really need java installed. Screenshot above is default settings in the advanced before changes made there.


StuartMW
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1 recommendation

I usually run javacpl.exe manually, and as an Administrator, since some time ago Sun/Oracle decided to make many settings only available to Administrators and I'm usually logged into a non-Admin account.

FYI if you have the 64-bit version of Java installed along with the 32-bit they share the same settings. I use the 32-bit javacpl.exe.
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Dustyn
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reply to Name Game
Is there a guide or a list of settings that should be changed from the stock defaults?