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reply to hm

Re: CRTC wants public help on new wireless rules

600-something comments filed with the CRTC so far.

»services.crtc.gc.ca/pub/ListeInt···c&Lang=e


From JF

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JF's filing requesting that the scope of these hearings be widened to include more:
»www.vaxination.ca/crtc/2012/CRTC···-oct.pdf


elwoodblues
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Since I'm not fully bi lingual I can't read it all, and attempts to convert it to another format (to run through a translator for the anglophones here) has failed.


ekster
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A quick summary of JF's submission is that

1. He feels that 2012-557 is too narrow, and there are a lot of other things that aren't included that can be anti-competitive

2. is already translated, to add that line to their public announcement

3. There are no advantages in requiring specific tariffs and it will take too long and be too costly to analyze, but there are other things outside the scope of discussion that affect free market and competition

4. Locked phones that make it hard to switch providers, showing a preference in offering TV services that do not count towards the cap, roaming fees and other things that others might want to discuss

5-8. If CRTC just mimics provincial laws that already exist, it adds nothing for consumers. They need to broaden their scope, otherwise the new policy will be incomplete and will not deal with the real problems.


elwoodblues
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I think TV does count towards the cap a friend got nailed hard during the juniors last fall.

But at the same time, that does make me mad, because it doesn't cost them a shiny nickel to send me that data.

I was in Guelph a few weeks back and my sister calls me (who was also in town somewhere) she's got a Fav 5/10 deal so the call was free for her, but Rogers charged me for the call (LD). Now 70c isn't going to kill me, but this is something that also needs to be looked at.

You can call from NY to LA for free in the US but if I call my buddy in Withby, it's long distance. As well why am I paying LD for VM ,again it never leaves their network.

Little things like that need to be looked at, the nickel and diming that gets me worked up.

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No, I didn't. Honest... I ran out of gas. I... I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake.......

bt

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said by elwoodblues:

I think TV does count towards the cap a friend got nailed hard during the juniors last fall.

Mobile TV, at least with Bell, is capped by the number of hours rather than data usage.


shrug

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said by bt:

said by elwoodblues:

I think TV does count towards the cap a friend got nailed hard during the juniors last fall.

Mobile TV, at least with Bell, is capped by the number of hours rather than data usage.

With Videotron, you get 5-hours of free mobile TV per month, but they also state you pay for the data-usage. So... what exactly is free about that? Sounds confusing as all hell. Is it free or not free?


elwoodblues
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Content is "free".

MaynardKrebs
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BitTorrent & TPB also make it "free"


elwoodblues
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NNTP makes it semi free


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reply to MaynardKrebs
said by MaynardKrebs:

BitTorrent & TPB also make it "free"

Sans 16+ minutes of commercial kaka every hour.

Not that I condone that sort of behaviour or anything.



Mike

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Of course.


Money4Words

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The blabber mouth, Terence Corcoran, with no real insight decided to write more, this time about this new code of wireless conduct

»opinion.financialpost.com/2012/1···s-rules/

In it he slams the OpenMedia Mouth piece, Anderson, for daring to say he got hooked into a 3 year contract re-newel unbeknown to himself, and calls it out as bullshit.

Well who here has had their cell auto-renew? I know my wife has. And when she called to complain to Rogers, they said they took care of it and is no longer on contract and then lowered her price.

I laughed and told her they just put you on another contract. She says no way. I say call them and find out.... Yup, they stuck her on another contract. Boy was she pissed off. She handed me the phone and said get rid of it for me. So I did. I had to swear at them for what they did and told them to pull records so you can see the lies you told not only me, but my wife. Then they fixed it (I called the next day to confirm it, and it was finally done... or so they said).

So, it appears as Mr. Terence Corcoran once again doesn't have a clue what he is talking about while he is openly calling Steve Andersons story BS.

What we are seeing here is money4words. A media company (Financial Post) fighting what is actually going on with people (and their money) and calling it all lies.

Quite interesting, and yet sad, to see someone in the media saying it's all bullshit as hundreds of people are writing in.

Meanwhile, as this words4money man continues his disservice to all Canadians for profit, there is now over 750 people posting and detailing similar experiences over at the CRTC:
»services.crtc.gc.ca/pub/ListeInt···c&Lang=e

I hope everyone here has submitted any mobile complaint to them that you have you encountered to help the CRTC see what is going on.


pick a name

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People who are following this may want to note that there is a time extension to file your comments to the CRTC in regards to wireless.

»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2012/···57-1.htm
New deadline for submission of interventions/comments: 4 December 2012

File number: 8665-C12-201212448
Changes to procedure

With this notice, the Commission revises the procedure established in Proceeding to establish a mandatory code for mobile wireless services, Telecom Notice of Consultation CRTC 2012-557, 11 October 2012.

The procedural changes are as follows:

The Commission extends the deadlines to submit interventions and replies.
The Commission amends the date of the public hearing.
The amended notice provides additional details about the online consultation.
The amended notice confirms that parties will have the opportunity to file final written replies following the public hearing.
The amended notice sets out that, prior to the commencement of the public hearing, the Commission will issue a “draft code” document prepared by Commission staff, based on the interventions and replies, as a way to stimulate debate and focus submissions at the public hearing.