reply to zod5000
Re: Astraweb automates DMCA removals If Astraweb can't afford a person to check claims, then maybe it is indicative of a bigger problem: Astraweb is hurting financially. Giganews have a DMCA agent that it mentioned by name and registered on the copyright.gov website. I find it odd that they can afford an agent and Astra can't. I mean lets be honest here, these NSPs are in business because of the binaries groups and this should be the cost of doing business period.
Also the type of abuse an automated system could garner could be enormous. Take for example a malicious person spamming DMCA Take Downs on one or several news groups claiming that material is infringing on his copyright. With an automated system, every request, would assume to be correct and thus automatically accepted.
Google gave a few examples on their website of the amount of mistaken claims.
Here are a few examples of requests that have been submitted through our copyright removals process that were clearly invalid copyright removal requests.
A major U.S. motion picture studio requested removal of the IMDb page for a movie released by the studio, as well as the official trailer posted on a major authorized online media service.
A U.S. reporting organization working on behalf of a major movie studio requested removal of a movie review on a major newspaper website twice.
A driving school in the U.K. requested the removal of a competitor's homepage from Search, on the grounds that the competitor had copied an alphabetized list of cities and regions where instruction was offered.
A content protection organization for motion picture, record and sports programming companies requested the removal of search results that link to copyright removal requests submitted by one of their clients and other URLs that did not host infringing content.
An individual in the U.S. requested the removal of search results that link to court proceedings referencing her first and last name on the ground that her name was copyrightable.
Multiple individuals in the U.S. requested the removal of search results that link to blog posts and web forums that associated their names with certain allegations, locations, dates or negative comments.
A company in the U.S. requested the removal of search results that link to an employee's blog posts about unjust and unfair treatment.
We did not comply with any of these requests.
Yes Giganews do charge more than the others, thanks for pointing that out. Your assumption is too simplistic, charge more= more money, especially when it doesn't take into consideration the costs of running that business. Giganews may have to charge that much just to keep things running as their costs may be higher than that of Astraweb's. The two may have very similar profit margins when it is all said and done. Also Ferrari, charge a lot for their cars. Let's say compared to Ford, their cars are far more expensive. I think we can all agree on that. Do you think that since Ferrari charges more for their cars, that they make more money than Ford?
Anyway like I said, being in the Usenet business, you should already have DMCA Take Down requests factored in as the cost of doing business. You are in fact in a business that is littered with all kinds of uploaded copyrighted material, let's be honest here and call it what it is.
Automatic DMCA take down request do no one any good. I find it hard to believe that you would support such a system especially when it could be detrimental to the whole Usenet milieu. I gave one good example in my last post of such abuse that could be rendered if a person was engendered to do so.