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inGearX
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balconies - Europe vs USA vs World

I'm in Europe

more exact in Italy

and wow it feels like 80% of apartments have a balcony - and many have HUGE balconies - it's like having a backyard ...

I live in Brooklyn, NY and most of the apartments - even new ones being built now - do not have balconies ...

what is going on?

I just want to understand ...

my mother said that because many buildings in Brooklyn were built in 1930s balcony wasn't exactly a priority - but what about before that and after ... maybe it's just not our culture do that that in USA

and what about the rest of the world...

looking forward to an informative discussion...

thank you...


Juggernaut
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In Europe, it's about the quality of life. Gardens, a veranda for socializing, eating and entertaining.

In NA, it's an afterthought for the most part.
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Coma
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NirvanaLand
reply to inGearX

What he said ^

Edit: forget about the balconies and get into the wines & food.

Oedipus

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reply to inGearX
Some things are done differently in other parts of the world? Say it aint so!


mityfowl
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reply to inGearX
When you visit Europe it's about food , booze and sex. Don't miss the sex part.

When you get back don't say "Europe this and Europe that"

Start telling everyone Brooklyn needs to change.

Then move


ilikeme
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reply to inGearX
Most apartments around DFW and Houston have them, both new and old.


UHF
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reply to inGearX
A lot of apartments in Milwaukee have them too.


alkizmo

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Pierrefonds, QC
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reply to inGearX
Where I live, there are TONS of condos being constructed, or recently built.

They all have balconies.

I can imagine balconies being left out for whatever zoning, code requirements, budget, etc, especially in regions where the temperature makes balconies useless half the year.

sk1939
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reply to inGearX
Few here in DC for better or worse. I've never seen the use of a balcony for the most part, every apartment that I've had that has one has either been utilized as a smoking section for visitors or a place to put plants and a bicycle, that's about it.


mityfowl
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said by sk1939:

Few here in DC for better or worse. I've never seen the use of a balcony for the most part, every apartment that I've had that has one has either been utilized as a smoking section for visitors or a place to put plants and a bicycle, that's about it.

See that's the difference in DC and most of the country.

I like being outside.

It feels nice to be out int the air, not trapped in a rabbit hutch.


mityfowl
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reply to inGearX
Most of those animals don't know they are in a hutch. They just accept it.


AVD
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reply to inGearX
how many of the non-tourist apartments have any form of Air-Conditioning.
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sk1939
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said by mityfowl:

said by sk1939:

Few here in DC for better or worse. I've never seen the use of a balcony for the most part, every apartment that I've had that has one has either been utilized as a smoking section for visitors or a place to put plants and a bicycle, that's about it.

See that's the difference in DC and most of the country.

I like being outside.

It feels nice to be out int the air, not trapped in a rabbit hutch.

It was the same when I lived in San Francisco as well, so I don't think it's a regional thing.


whizkid3
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reply to sk1939
said by sk1939:

every apartment that I've had that has one has either been utilized as a smoking section for visitors or a place to put plants and a bicycle, that's about it.

Funny. I lived in Europe. My wife is from Europe. We have an apartment in Europe with a balcony. In my experience, all the balconies in Europe are pretty much used the same as in the US - for smoking, plants & bicycle storage; not to mention hanging laundry, satellite TV antenna, and the occasional BBQ. Yes, they do have pretty different cultures; but not when it comes to apartment balconies.


Juggernaut
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reply to AVD
said by AVD:

how many of the non-tourist apartments have any form of Air-Conditioning.

I don't get the connection with this question. One factor does not equate with the other, nor vise versa.
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kubus

join:2000-12-22
Irwin, PA
reply to inGearX
There is the balcony... and then you have sidewalks, courtyards with play area for kids. But one of the biggest difference that irritates me is the missing wind trap. Mud room with two entry doors i guess is the best way to describe it. Last thing I want is to walk straight into living room letting the cold/hot in. Simple yet efficient.

Bob4
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reply to inGearX
A photo would help those of us who have never been to Italy to understand what you are saying. Please post a photo of you standing on a balcony in Italy.


ropeguru
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reply to Coma
said by Coma:



Edit: forget about the balconies and get into the wines & food.

And a balcony is great for that...


cableties
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reply to whizkid3
Do you rent it out?

Yeah, I noticed small balconies in Paris, some had clothes drying. Others were small patios with café table. But most were too small for anything but a smoke.
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alkizmo

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reply to ropeguru
said by ropeguru:

said by Coma:



Edit: forget about the balconies and get into the wines & food.

And a balcony is great for that...

But the #1 cause of balcony related deaths is alcohol intoxication!

MaynardKrebs
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said by alkizmo:

said by ropeguru:

said by Coma:



Edit: forget about the balconies and get into the wines & food.

And a balcony is great for that...

But the #1 cause of balcony related deaths is alcohol intoxication!

Darwin rules!!!


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reply to Bob4
said by Bob4:

A photo would help those of us who have never been to Italy to understand what you are saying. Please post a photo of you standing on a balcony in Italy.

I think he's camera shy.
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hitachi369
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reply to inGearX
It could also be that people in Metro New York where space is limited value interior floor space verse limited use exterior space. If you are going to put a balcony in that space needs to come from somewhere, and it would likely be at the cost of interior space.


whizkid3
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Except that buildings with balconies exist and are being built all over NYC.

inGearX probably lives in an older building with fire escapes and no room for balconies. (These are the balconies.)


inGearX
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reply to hitachi369
said by hitachi369:

It could also be that people in Metro New York where space is limited value interior floor space verse limited use exterior space. If you are going to put a balcony in that space needs to come from somewhere, and it would likely be at the cost of interior space.

ohhhhhh I think we've hit the jackpot

really

most apartment space is sold per sq. ft.

and it is the interior space that counts for most people ...

and on paper and etc...

I would be OK - actually happy paying same for outdoor sq. ft. space - like a mini backyard I can always walk out onto ...

but sq. ft. = $$$ for builders ... for buyers ... for sellers :/

so sad...

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unfortunately this is true :/

said by mityfowl:

said by sk1939:

Few here in DC for better or worse. I've never seen the use of a balcony for the most part, every apartment that I've had that has one has either been utilized as a smoking section for visitors or a place to put plants and a bicycle, that's about it.

See that's the difference in DC and most of the country.

I like being outside.

It feels nice to be out int the air, not trapped in a rabbit hutch.

said by mityfowl:

Most of those animals don't know they are in a hutch. They just accept it.



inGearX
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reply to whizkid3
said by whizkid3:

Except that buildings with balconies exist and are being built all over NYC.

inGearX probably lives in an older building with fire escapes and no room for balconies. (These are the balconies.)

no mate I am in new...

one of »www.related.com/

and look at this

90% if not 95% of things they made do not have balconies :/

so sad...


whizkid3
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Interesting. I am in the industry and meet with developers every week. I will talk with them and find out what is behind whether balconies are included or not.