inGearX3.1415 9265 join:2000-06-11 New York |
balconies - Europe vs USA vs WorldI'm in Europe more exact in Italy and wow it feels like 80% of apartments have a balcony - and many have HUGE balconies - it's like having a backyard ... I live in Brooklyn, NY and most of the apartments - even new ones being built now - do not have balconies ... what is going on? I just want to understand ... my mother said that because many buildings in Brooklyn were built in 1930s balcony wasn't exactly a priority - but what about before that and after ... maybe it's just not our culture do that that in USA and what about the rest of the world... looking forward to an informative discussion... thank you... |
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JuggernautIrreverent or irrelevant? Premium Member join:2006-09-05 Kelowna, BC |
In Europe, it's about the quality of life. Gardens, a veranda for socializing, eating and entertaining.
In NA, it's an afterthought for the most part. |
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Coma Thanks Steve Premium Member join:2001-12-30 NirvanaLand |
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What he said ^
Edit: forget about the balconies and get into the wines & food.
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Some things are done differently in other parts of the world? Say it aint so! |
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mityfowl Premium Member join:2000-11-06 Dallas, TX
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When you visit Europe it's about food , booze and sex. Don't miss the sex part. When you get back don't say "Europe this and Europe that" Start telling everyone Brooklyn needs to change. Then move |
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ilikeme Premium Member join:2002-08-27 Stafford, TX |
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Most apartments around DFW and Houston have them, both new and old. |
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UHFAll static, all day, Forever MVM join:2002-05-24 |
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A lot of apartments in Milwaukee have them too. |
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alkizmo join:2007-06-25 Pierrefonds, QC |
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Where I live, there are TONS of condos being constructed, or recently built.
They all have balconies.
I can imagine balconies being left out for whatever zoning, code requirements, budget, etc, especially in regions where the temperature makes balconies useless half the year. |
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sk1939 Premium Member join:2010-10-23 Frederick, MD ARRIS SB8200 Ubiquiti UDM-Pro Juniper SRX320
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Few here in DC for better or worse. I've never seen the use of a balcony for the most part, every apartment that I've had that has one has either been utilized as a smoking section for visitors or a place to put plants and a bicycle, that's about it. |
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mityfowl Premium Member join:2000-11-06 Dallas, TX |
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2012-Oct-21 10:15 pm
said by sk1939:Few here in DC for better or worse. I've never seen the use of a balcony for the most part, every apartment that I've had that has one has either been utilized as a smoking section for visitors or a place to put plants and a bicycle, that's about it. See that's the difference in DC and most of the country. I like being outside. It feels nice to be out int the air, not trapped in a rabbit hutch. |
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Most of those animals don't know they are in a hutch. They just accept it. |
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AVDRespice, Adspice, Prospice Premium Member join:2003-02-06 Onion, NJ |
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how many of the non-tourist apartments have any form of Air-Conditioning. |
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sk1939 Premium Member join:2010-10-23 Frederick, MD ARRIS SB8200 Ubiquiti UDM-Pro Juniper SRX320
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said by mityfowl:said by sk1939:Few here in DC for better or worse. I've never seen the use of a balcony for the most part, every apartment that I've had that has one has either been utilized as a smoking section for visitors or a place to put plants and a bicycle, that's about it. See that's the difference in DC and most of the country. I like being outside. It feels nice to be out int the air, not trapped in a rabbit hutch. It was the same when I lived in San Francisco as well, so I don't think it's a regional thing. |
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said by sk1939:every apartment that I've had that has one has either been utilized as a smoking section for visitors or a place to put plants and a bicycle, that's about it. Funny. I lived in Europe. My wife is from Europe. We have an apartment in Europe with a balcony. In my experience, all the balconies in Europe are pretty much used the same as in the US - for smoking, plants & bicycle storage; not to mention hanging laundry, satellite TV antenna, and the occasional BBQ. Yes, they do have pretty different cultures; but not when it comes to apartment balconies. |
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JuggernautIrreverent or irrelevant? Premium Member join:2006-09-05 Kelowna, BC |
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said by AVD:how many of the non-tourist apartments have any form of Air-Conditioning. I don't get the connection with this question. One factor does not equate with the other, nor vise versa. |
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kubus join:2000-12-22 Irwin, PA |
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There is the balcony... and then you have sidewalks, courtyards with play area for kids. But one of the biggest difference that irritates me is the missing wind trap. Mud room with two entry doors i guess is the best way to describe it. Last thing I want is to walk straight into living room letting the cold/hot in. Simple yet efficient. |
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Bob4Account deleted join:2012-07-22 New Jersey
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A photo would help those of us who have never been to Italy to understand what you are saying. Please post a photo of you standing on a balcony in Italy. |
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ropeguru Premium Member join:2001-01-25 Mechanicsville, VA |
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said by Coma:
Edit: forget about the balconies and get into the wines & food.
And a balcony is great for that... |
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Do you rent it out? Yeah, I noticed small balconies in Paris, some had clothes drying. Others were small patios with café table. But most were too small for anything but a smoke. |
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alkizmo join:2007-06-25 Pierrefonds, QC |
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said by ropeguru:said by Coma:
Edit: forget about the balconies and get into the wines & food.
And a balcony is great for that... But the #1 cause of balcony related deaths is alcohol intoxication! |
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MaynardKrebsWe did it. We heaved Steve. Yipee. Premium Member join:2009-06-17 |
said by alkizmo:said by ropeguru:said by Coma:
Edit: forget about the balconies and get into the wines & food.
And a balcony is great for that... But the #1 cause of balcony related deaths is alcohol intoxication! Darwin rules!!! |
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MagManLife is simpler when you tell the truth. Premium Member join:2003-10-01 Westlake, OH |
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said by Bob4:A photo would help those of us who have never been to Italy to understand what you are saying. Please post a photo of you standing on a balcony in Italy. I think he's camera shy. |
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hitachi369Embrace Your Rights Premium Member join:2001-10-03 Cincinnati, OH (Software) pfSense Switches Trash Bin Ubiquiti UniFi AP
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It could also be that people in Metro New York where space is limited value interior floor space verse limited use exterior space. If you are going to put a balcony in that space needs to come from somewhere, and it would likely be at the cost of interior space. |
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Except that buildings with balconies exist and are being built all over NYC.
inGearX probably lives in an older building with fire escapes and no room for balconies. (These are the balconies.) |
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inGearX3.1415 9265 join:2000-06-11 New York |
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said by hitachi369:It could also be that people in Metro New York where space is limited value interior floor space verse limited use exterior space. If you are going to put a balcony in that space needs to come from somewhere, and it would likely be at the cost of interior space. ohhhhhh I think we've hit the jackpot really most apartment space is sold per sq. ft. and it is the interior space that counts for most people ... and on paper and etc... I would be OK - actually happy paying same for outdoor sq. ft. space - like a mini backyard I can always walk out onto ... but sq. ft. = $$$ for builders ... for buyers ... for sellers :/ so sad... =============================== unfortunately this is true :/ said by mityfowl:said by sk1939:Few here in DC for better or worse. I've never seen the use of a balcony for the most part, every apartment that I've had that has one has either been utilized as a smoking section for visitors or a place to put plants and a bicycle, that's about it. See that's the difference in DC and most of the country. I like being outside. It feels nice to be out int the air, not trapped in a rabbit hutch. said by mityfowl:Most of those animals don't know they are in a hutch. They just accept it. |
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said by whizkid3:Except that buildings with balconies exist and are being built all over NYC.
inGearX probably lives in an older building with fire escapes and no room for balconies. (These are the balconies.) no mate I am in new... one of » www.related.com/and look at this 90% if not 95% of things they made do not have balconies :/ so sad... |
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Interesting. I am in the industry and meet with developers every week. I will talk with them and find out what is behind whether balconies are included or not. |
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