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Spike
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Re: DTV illegal in Canada? What is the legal justification?

said by DKS:

said by LondonOntGuy:

I'm guessing DKS is a Bell shareholder, or maybe Mirko Bibic incognito. Never have I seen someone defend Bell like he has in this thread.

None of the above. Just happen to know how copyright works.

Very good, for the remaining 15% or so (and dropping rapidly) of people that actually have any respect for that slow motion lobbyist driven trainwreck that no longer serves its intended purpose.

The industry made their precious government granted copyright laws into a toxic public matter, now they have to live with the resulting lack of public respect for copyright as a whole.


DKS
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said by Spike:

said by DKS:

said by LondonOntGuy:

I'm guessing DKS is a Bell shareholder, or maybe Mirko Bibic incognito. Never have I seen someone defend Bell like he has in this thread.

None of the above. Just happen to know how copyright works.

Very good, for the remaining 15% or so (and dropping rapidly) of people that actually have any respect for that slow motion lobbyist driven trainwreck that no longer serves its intended purpose.

The industry made their precious government granted copyright laws into a toxic public matter, now they have to live with the resulting lack of public respect for copyright as a whole.

Like it or not, copyright law still exists. It is far older than any of us and still valuable,. I make my living using material I create and copyright.
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said by Spike:

The industry made their precious government granted copyright laws into a toxic public matter, now they have to live with the resulting lack of public respect for copyright as a whole.

DTV being illegal isn't a copyright issue at all, it's a licensing issue, and is only loosely related to copyright.

If you download from a source not authorized by the copyright holder, you're violating copyright.

If you're watching DTV in Canada, then you're not violating copyright because the rights holder has approved the materials for transmission on DTV, but, someone else in Canada has paid for the rights to broadcast this here, making it a violation of the exclusive privilege granted to the Canadian broadcaster.
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said by El Quintron:

If you're watching DTV in Canada, then you're not violating copyright because the rights holder has approved the materials for transmission on DTV, but, someone else in Canada has paid for the rights to broadcast this here, making it a violation of the exclusive privilege granted to the Canadian broadcaster.

And the actual violation is the American DTV provider and that's who the Canadian broadcasters should go after since they are infringing the Canadian Broadcasters' rights! The American DTV providers should not be providing service to Canadians.

But that's too hard and potentially costly, so, instead the Canadian Broadcasters twisted the CRTCs arm to put the fault on the Canadian consumer for buying foreign services.


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said by sbrook:

And the actual violation is the American DTV provider and that's who the Canadian broadcasters should go after since they are infringing the Canadian Broadcasters' rights! The American DTV providers should not be providing service to Canadians.

But that's too hard and potentially costly, so, instead the Canadian Broadcasters twisted the CRTCs arm to put the fault on the Canadian consumer for buying foreign services.

It's also fairly deniable by the American DTV provider seeing as most of the time a 3rd party is selling the service to non-Americans.

I know it would be difficult to prosecute, but it's like blaming car manufacturers because their cars were used in bank robberies... a thin link at best.
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