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shortckt
Watchen Das Blinken Lights
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join:2000-12-05
Tenant Hell
reply to Wily_One

Where's Steve...

I have to agree that it seems these days initiatives are either backed by big money, or just someone's nutty idea. Alot of voters, unfortunately, spend more time watching Survivors or Dancing With The Stars than pondering their collective futures.

Another problem with the initiative process is that any kook can put any crazy idea on the ballot, and this method of lawmaking takes place without the open hearings and review that normal legislation should go through. Then when inattentive voters pass one of these, everyone turns to the court system to sort it out, further muddying the problem.

Reading some of the propositions that have been filed with the Secretary of State from time to time shows just how many nutty ideas are out there. Maybe we need an initiative to up the stakes for filing new initiatives, along with another to give us a part time legislature!



Boricua
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join:2002-01-26
Sacramuerto

said by shortckt:

I have to agree that it seems these days initiatives are either backed by big money, or just someone's nutty idea.

Prop 38 is "someone's nutty idea" like Prop 98 wasn't enough . Everyone know these schools are top heavy in that the money goes to the administrators and not to where it should go. Between that one and Prop 30, I voted yes for 30. I know, I know, what am I thinking? I choosing that because my roommate works for the college and if 30 doesn't pass, there is a high likelihood she'll lose her job.
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Illegal aliens have always been a problem in the United States. Ask any Indian. Robert Orben


shortckt
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Tenant Hell

said by Boricua:

...Everyone know these schools are top heavy in that the money goes to the administrators and not to where it should go. Between that one and Prop 30, I voted yes for 30. I know, I know, what am I thinking? I choosing that because my roommate works for the college and if 30 doesn't pass, there is a high likelihood she'll lose her job.

It's a tough call, I sympathize. I'll be voting NO on both of them, despite a close relative in my family being a newly minted CA public school teacher, and Prop. 30 certainly wouldn't affect my income taxes directly since I don't earn anywhere near six figures.

I can't stomach the idea of giving the state more and more when they haven't done anything to curb their overspending ways, and I don't believe Brown's woefull cries about devastating school budget cuts. It's the same ol' politician's song and dance... scare the public with stories of cutting school items, or fire, or police....

The Mercury News has a good article on this subject here. (See the section But are they really "cuts?")

IMO because our legislators would see this proposed new source of funding as an excuse to reduce by an equal amount the school funding from the general fund, the practical result of either proposition will be an almost zero sum difference in total funding to schools.


Boricua
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join:2002-01-26
Sacramuerto

said by shortckt:

It's a tough call, I sympathize. I'll be voting NO on both of them, despite a close relative in my family being a newly minted CA public school teacher, and Prop. 30 certainly wouldn't affect my income taxes directly since I don't earn anywhere near six figures.

I can't stomach the idea of giving the state more and more when they haven't done anything to curb their overspending ways, and I don't believe Brown's woefull cries about devastating school budget cuts. It's the same ol' politician's song and dance... scare the public with stories of cutting school items, or fire, or police....

The Mercury News has a good article on this subject here. (See the section But are they really "cuts?")

IMO because our legislators would see this proposed new source of funding as an excuse to reduce by an equal amount the school funding from the general fund, the practical result of either proposition will be an almost zero sum difference in total funding to schools.

I agree with you. I wanted to say NO, but in case it's true, I didn't want her to lose her job. I haven't been secretive about this, but I do work for the state government and I know what you mean.
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Illegal aliens have always been a problem in the United States. Ask any Indian. Robert Orben


Biz Guy 64

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reply to Boricua

Prop 30 was the last straw for me... This wealthy guy is moving to NV or TX. CA is too crowded, far too expensive and now carries the distinct privilege of having the highest state tax rate on the planet. There are not enough rich people in the USA to tax in order to continue the madness of our uncontrolled spending. The easiest 15% raise I can give myself is to simply move. My new home will be less expensive, more luxurious and completely paid for by not having to pay any state income tax. Good luck CA... Peace!



Waldothe3rd
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Sun N Sand

But... it's only a "temporary" tax increase!