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ravenchilde

join:2011-04-01
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reply to InfernoSB

Re: [BC] Did anyone else get an extra $3 hike this month?

said by InfernoSB:

My friend in Sweden only pays around $20 euros for his 100MBit.

Talk to your MP. The Swedish government used heavy subsidies to spur broadband, and they have a lot more people per square kilometer on average since they are a smaller country.

Sweden: 21 people per square KM.
Canada: 3.45 people per square KM.

»internetinnovation.org/factbook/···ssively/

InfernoSB

join:2005-08-17
New Westminster, BC

Nice info there ravenchilde. Thanks for the insight.


ravenchilde

join:2011-04-01
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said by InfernoSB:

Nice info there ravenchilde. Thanks for the insight.

It helps to understand why some countries are leading in broadband. Apples and oranges.

zod5000

join:2003-10-21
Victoria, BC
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The population per square km isn't always a good comparison. Most of Canada is wide open space with 0 population. 80% of the Canadian population live in the cities. The cities are much denser than 3.45/square km. I don't think including uninhabited lands provides a proper comparison when explaining our population densities.


ravenchilde

join:2011-04-01
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said by zod5000:

The population per square km isn't always a good comparison. Most of Canada is wide open space with 0 population. 80% of the Canadian population live in the cities. The cities are much denser than 3.45/square km. I don't think including uninhabited lands provides a proper comparison when explaining our population densities.

That is why there is also a reference to the lack of large government subsidies for broadband in Canada. There is an "AND" statement there.

If you can get the government to subsidize higher speed broadband rollouts, then you're gold. Then again, you'll have to pay for it one way or another: taxes, deficit spending, tariffs, etc.

kevinds

join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
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There is/was a large broadband subsidy in Canada.

One of the companies I used to work for in Manitoba got some of it, Xplornet got a lot of it as well.
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WhosTheBosch

join:2009-12-02
reply to ravenchilde

said by ravenchilde:

said by InfernoSB:

My friend in Sweden only pays around $20 euros for his 100MBit.

Talk to your MP. The Swedish government used heavy subsidies to spur broadband, and they have a lot more people per square kilometer on average since they are a smaller country.

Sweden: 21 people per square KM.
Canada: 3.45 people per square KM.

»internetinnovation.org/factbook/···ssively/

Don't try to pull this bullshit please! I'm sure Sweden's northern most part doesn't have a 21 person per square KM ratio. So why the hell are you counting Baffin Island in the reason why Vancouver and Toronto can't have quality Internet with low prices? I would even make a wager that Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal probably have a similar population than Stockholm.

Also, it doesn't matter that there are distances between major cities in Canada, all that means is they have to have some more fibre between cities. Sweden still has to have fibre between cities, ours is just a bit longer. In addition, it's not like communities with less than 5000 people are going to be served the same level Internet as people in a major centre. Oh, and no one's going to ensure they have the same service as the ISP's are actively trying to ditch any rules ensuring they even give them basic service. There were subsidies in the past but they are no more and shouldn't be involved in any discussion here.

Finally, the majority of Canadian population lives within 300 miles of the US border so please stop using stupid statistics like counting Baffin Island's population and geographic size.

As an FYI if you look back in the late 90's and early 2000's Canada was one of the leading nations with high speed Internet. Once the Telco's and Cable companies got the initial lines laid though they've just been sitting back and drinking up the cash profits.