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Re: [AB] Telus routing Edmonton-Seattle traffic through Chicago

Does nobody know routing and moreso how peering/transit agreements work? Telus has major peering sites at chicago, new york, san jose, seattle, toronto and washington with a smattering of other small POPs. Chicago and San Jose are the biggest and have the most connections to transit providor's (nlayer, internap, etc), who generally provide cheap bandwidth to data center customers. The rest of the connections are to content providor's (google, microsoft, facebook, akiami, etc) and other residential and business ISPs (Qwest, cablevision, shaw etc).

Contrary to what some of you seem to think, not everybody is connected into a big switch happy exabit switch that allows free passage of packets anywhere they need to go.

If you look at the OP's tracert vs mister m's, you can see that one runs through a cheap transit providor's network and the other has to run over qwests network, which costs more.

Thus spectrum net advertises a better route through xo.net because they don't want to pay the premium to qwest.

So either wowrack (or spectrumnet or xo.net) needs to peer with telus at seattle (good luck making this happen) or wowrack needs to adjust their route advertisements to pickup more traffic from qwest (equally unlikely).
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said by pb2k:

So either wowrack (or spectrumnet or xo.net) needs to peer with telus at seattle (good luck making this happen) or wowrack needs to adjust their route advertisements to pickup more traffic from qwest (equally unlikely).

They can't peer where a provider does not want to peer with networks. The problem is with Telus.

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said by pb2k:

So either wowrack (or spectrumnet or xo.net) needs to peer with telus at seattle (good luck making this happen) or wowrack needs to adjust their route advertisements to pickup more traffic from qwest (equally unlikely).

TELUS are a bunch of bastards to peer with. You know this, so stop pretending like it's easy.