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guppy_fish
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Re: Smaller size wire on 20A circuit for dedicated purpose?

It is perfectly acceptable to have a branch segment to the light above the junction box/point 14 awg. For the length that wire is, say 6-8 feet you could run 40 amps on it and still be within the 3% voltage drop rule. Perfectly safe and code complaint to my NEC knowledge.

I'm sure Nunya will set us all right in short order


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Duno if its compliant, but if the junction box is fully accessible, you could fuse the 14ga chunk of wire with a 10-15a fuse contained within the junction box. Would prob have to be a 4x4 box tho..

thats the plumbers point of view.. hehh

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It you go the 4" box route, simply install 2 GFI outlet breakers. One would be a 20A that would be feed from the 12AWG wire and then feed any other bathroom 20A outlets ; and then a second 15A that would be fed from the 20AWG wire that would feed the 14AWG for the light.
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AVD
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said by pende_tim:

It you go the 4" box route, simply install 2 GFI outlet breakers. One would be a 20A that would be feed from the 12AWG wire and then feed any other bathroom 20A outlets ; and then a second 15A that would be fed from the 20AWG wire that would feed the 14AWG for the light.

wouldn't it be easier to fish in new wire?
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said by AVD:

said by pende_tim:

It you go the 4" box route, simply install 2 GFI outlet breakers. One would be a 20A that would be feed from the 12AWG wire and then feed any other bathroom 20A outlets ; and then a second 15A that would be fed from the 20AWG wire that would feed the 14AWG for the light.

wouldn't it be easier to fish in new wire?

From the OP's initial problem statement: "I am having a major issue running a new wire for the lights above the sink, there is a big AC duct above which blocks access."
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John Galt
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He could go sideways, or go low.



cowboyro

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said by John Galt:

He could go sideways, or go low.

Can't, there are studs and joists blocking, only way is to come from above but that is blocked.


John Galt
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That's no excuse...!

Post a pic.



cdru
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reply to pende_tim

said by pende_tim:

It you go the 4" box route, simply install 2 GFI outlet breakers.

Can you please point to one of these GFI outlet breakers. I'd like to know more about them.

One would be a 20A that would be feed from the 12AWG wire and then feed any other bathroom 20A outlets ; and then a second 15A that would be fed from the 20AWG wire that would feed the 14AWG for the light.

Presuming you meant that the second 15A that would be fed from the 12AWG wire, that would be against code. GFI outlets are not overcurrent breakers and can't be used as such. They do make GFI breakers which serve as both a GFI and overcurrent protector, but that wouldn't work for what you are suggesting.


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said by John Galt:

That's no excuse...!
Post a pic.

I already closed the ceiling and floor. Side would involve a 90 degree turn behind studs.
I'll just use the 15A circuit for those lights.

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