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Immer
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[Classes] Warlock 5.0.5

Based on a Noxxic.com writeup:

According to SimulationCraft505-5, Affliction has the highest potential dps output of 104.9K dps, Demonology 99.1k, Destro 91.6k.


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Re: [Classes] Warlock 5.0.5 (Affliction Spec)

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Stat Priority:
Intellect > Spell Hit (15%) = Mastery > Haste > Crit

• Intellect Increases damage dealt by spells and slightly increases critical strike chance.
• Spell Hit (15%) Any Hit Rating will increase your chance to hit and at 15% Hit (5100 Rating) your spells can no longer miss on bosses. To check your hit percentage, open your character panel and then check under the Spell tab for "Hit Chance." The choice of how much Hit to stack comes down to your comfort level with missing and reapplying DoTs. Thanks to Pandemic, Warlocks have room to spare in their rotation but heavy misses can make the rotation difficult to manage. Stack as much Hit as needed (up to 15%) to maintain a comfortable rotation.
• Mastery Mastery: Potent Afflictions increases the damage by your Agony, Corruption, and Unstable Affliction.
• Haste Reduces cast time, lowers GCD, and can gives extra ticks to your DoTs.
• Crit Increases the chance for your attacks to critically hit for 200% damage.

Reforging:
1. Optimize Spell Hit on any gear without Hit rating, reforge the weakest stat (see stat priority) into Hit. The choice of how much Hit to stack comes down to your comfort level with missing and reapplying DoTs. Thanks to Pandemic, Warlocks have room to spare in their rotation but heavy misses can make the rotation difficult to manage. Stack as much Hit as needed (up to 15%) to maintain a comfortable rotation.
2. Optimize Mastery and Haste on any gear without Mastery or Haste, reforge the weakest stat (see priority) into Mastery or Haste as available.

Major Glyphs 5.0.5

{Glyph of Soul Shards} Required. Improves DPS by providing an extra Soul Shard.
{Glyph of Siphon Life} Recommended. Provides a small survivability boost.
{Glyph of Demonic Circle} Optional. Good for high movement fights.
{Glyph of Soulstone} Optional. Improved utility for saving players.
{Glyph of Soul Swap} Optional. Improved utility for multi-target DoTs.

Minor Glyphs 5.0.5

{Glyph of Crimson Banish} Optional. New color on Banish can be used to identify targets.
{Glyph of Enslave Demon} Optional. Useful if you get to enslave a strong add.

Single Target Rotation - 5.0.5

DPS Priority: Execute this priority for optimal DPS.

• Curse of the Elements when nobody else provides the debuff.
• Haunt Maintain the debuff and watch for Nightfall procs.
• Agony Maintain at all times.
• Corruption Maintain at all times.
• Unstable Affliction Maintain at all times.
• Drain Soul when target is below 20% Health. Replaces Malefic Grasp.
• Malefic Grasp as a filler spell.
• Fel Flame when on the move, but not to extend Corruption and Unstable Affliction.

Affliction Warlock DPS follows the priority outlined above. Maintain Curse of the Elements, Agony, Corruption, and Unstable Affliction at all times. The easiest way to do this at the start of a fight is to cast Curse of the Elements followed by Soulburn + Soul Swap to instantly apply your DoTs. After that, maintain the debuff from Haunt as much as possible. Haunt is the best spell to use to consume Nightfall procs. Use Malefic Grasp as your filler spell when the target is above 20% Health. Finally, when your target is below 20% Health, cast Drain Soul as your filler spell instead of Malefic Grasp. During this time you will rapidly generate Soul Shards and should refresh your DoTs with Soulburn + Soul Swap.

Demon: If you did not take Grimoire of Sacrifice then use the Summon Felhunter as your pet for both single target and AoE DPS. However, Grimoire of Sacrifice is the recommended talent for Affliction Warlock DPS and you should use it to sacrifice a demon for the powerful self-buff.

AoE Rotation - 5.0.5

• Soulburn + Curse of the Elements
• Soulburn + Seed of Corruption
• Seed of Corruption

With less than 4 targets, use Soulburn + Soul Swap to apply your DoTs and follow the single target DPS priority. At less than/= 4 targets, apply Curse of the Elements to all targets via Soulburn. After that, combine Soulburn + Seed of Corruption on one target and then cycle through and maintain Seed of Corruption on all other targets. From here, your priority is to use Soul Shards on Soulburn + Seed of Corruption to maintain Corruption on all targets while keeping Seed of Corruption on all targets. If you have excess Soul Shards and a free GCD, apply Haunt to the AoE target that has the most health.
Effective Cooldowns - 5.0.5

These effective cooldowns are available if you chose them in your talent build.

• Kil'jaeden's Cunning Use as needed for penalty-free casting during raid movement.
• Grimoire of Sacrifice Sacrifice any demon for the powerful 1 hour buff.

These are effective cooldowns to try and incorporate into most all encounters.

• Dark Soul: Misery Use on cooldown.
• Summon Infernal Use for burst AoE DPS. Exclusive with Summon Doomguard.
• Summon Doomguard Use for burst single target DPS. Exclusive with Summon Infernal.
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reply to Immer

Re: [Classes] Warlock 5.0.1

Is this a subtle hint? lol

I'm taking those sim DPS results with a huge grain of salt. In real life is it pretty hard to get perfect priority done which would likely be necessary for Affliction to get those numbers.

Right now I like destro as it is much simpler which makes it easier to focus on the fight mechanics.

Couldn't hurt to try Affliction but I would have to stick with it awhile to get the new priority, etc. down well.


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haha, no. Rhenai See Profile asked if there were any guides, and I was surprised to see there were none. Also, I wanted to try out a different approach to editing guide information so that it wouldn't make Tirael See Profile upset. Finally, I'm still hoping for Adalicia See Profile or someone to pick up the warlock guides since I deleted my lock when MoP dropped (just wasn't my thing).

The SimulationCraft numbers are like top speed on a test track used to compare a Ferrari versus Porche. The absolute numbers only really matters if you drive where there are no speed limits... even then... your performance mileage may vary. But that doesn't mean they aren't without merit. Some specs might be slightly better depending on gear scaling... which means to eliminate the affect of BiS gearing, you should load up your gear into a SiM and have it crunch the numbers for your current toon. The results might surprise you.
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Re: [Classes] Warlock 5.0.5

All I know about warlocks is that Chaos Bolt makes leveling silly (conflag conflag bolt loot), and that hearing the phrase "oh I have Unending Resolve?" from my warlock when we're dying to Force and Verve makes me very very angry.


Immer
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yeah... I hear Chaos Bolt takes like an hour to cast, too.


Jodokast

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Re: [Classes] Warlock 5.0.1

I was Demo ever since the start of the game, i swore i would be demo for life or nothing. THEN MoP came out, i abhore, hate, HATE how demo mechanics work, so i broke my own word and switch to destro, i do pretty well with destro its at least fun, wish demo wasnt so twitchy i had almost deleted my lock becuase of how demo is, but i just couldnt do it, my lock has been my "main" for a long time and almost all my achievements have been done by him.

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Re: [Classes] Warlock 5.0.5

I love the visual of chaos bolt, but its hard to work in since the cast time really is a long time lol, you can get more dps just casting conflag? a few times in the same amount of time it takes to cast bolt, but when i have three embers built up ill cast the spell that boosts my crit chance and then cast bolts back to back just refreshing between bolts to keep immolate up then go back to building up embers, rinse n repeat. with Destro i can at least cast and watch whats going on in the game at the same time, afflict you have to stare at your toon just about the whole time to watch whats on cd, whats running out, just way to much spell maintenance



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Re: [Classes] Warlock 5.0.1

I like my demonology lock. He's been fun to play for a weeks now, compared to before. I hope they leave them the way they are.

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Re: [Classes] Warlock 5.0.5

Chaos bolt is always a crit btw. No need to burn the extra crit CD when casting it. I usually pop the CD when I'm low on embers as incenerate and fel flame crits build burning embers faster. It's usually a good idea to use at the beginning of a fight to build embers quickly, throw out some chaos bolts, then pop everytime you are low on embers and the fight mechanics allow it.

Edit: Sorry I think this thread was actually intended to be an AFF Lock guide.


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I haven't played this game in two years and that affliction rotation sounds like what I was using back then. I always liked affliction for raiding because your dots still tick while you're moving around and refresh when you stop moving and cast your filler spells. Only real difference is that we used to use Shadow Bolt as pre-20% filler instead of Malefic Grasp (which must be new).
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said by Bodybagger:

Edit: Sorry I think this thread was actually intended to be an AFF Lock guide.

no, the entire thread should be "Warlock", but if you are posting a specific spec guide just add "(Demonology)" or "(Destruction)" to the title of your reply post. Quick replies to the Affliction guide post should carry the appropriate subject line in them.

...and I'm just following forum methodology that works well in online classes. Not really a DSLR etiquette standard by any means.
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it is new, but i like it being channeled instead of casted, aff is very fun, i was always a destro when i played but i have switched, its just more fun to me now.
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Goldheart

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said by Bodybagger:

Chaos bolt is always a crit btw. No need to burn the extra crit CD when casting it. I usually pop the CD when I'm low on embers as incenerate and fel flame crits build burning embers faster. It's usually a good idea to use at the beginning of a fight to build embers quickly, throw out some chaos bolts, then pop everytime you are low on embers and the fight mechanics allow it.

Edit: Sorry I think this thread was actually intended to be an AFF Lock guide.

If you're talking about Backdraft that doesn't provide a crit, it reduces the cast time of the next 3 incinerates or 1 chaos bolt by 30%. Game guides usually say if you have 3 up, cast incinerate, otherwise chaos bolt.

Bodybagger

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No I thought he was talking about Dark Soul which gives you an increased crit chance in destro I do believe. I couldn't think of the name at the time of typing the reply.


Jodokast

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its ok, im at work and dont have all the spells memorized, ill update tomarrow once i get my facts straight



Goldheart

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Ah right, Dark Soul: Instability does increase crit chance by 30% for 20 seconds.

The glyph of Dark Soul has a passive bonus of 3% to crit (except on cooldown) but at the cost of only 20% bonus. Could be useful.



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Re: [Classes] Warlock 5.0.1

I'm with you Goldheart, Destro seems much simpler to me as well. I was Destro pre-MOP but when I say the gap in the noxxic stats, I switched over to Aff for MOP. Before long I was switching back and forth between Destro and Aff; I think leveling for me was about the same either way, it was more of a boredom issue with Aff. (plus I like to burn shit)(I love to listen to the sound of the crackle in my head phones as those fire spells heat up). At some point though I was outdoing dps with destro so I never went back to Aff. Now that I'm in the dungeons and raids and there is so much need for AOE, Aff is probably the better choice (though some are holding out for the cataclysm spell in 5.1).

I think if I went Aff for any extended period of time I'd have to switch all my macros over to mouseover macros.

One last thing, one site that I never see mentioned much that I like to use for reference is maxdps.com. It lists out the top 30 or so pieces of gear for each slot and the dps contributed by each. Helps especially when leveling to see whether it is really worth swapping out for that new higher ilvl piece when you just gemmed and enchanted the existing one.


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Re: [Classes] Warlock 5.0.5

said by Goldheart:

Ah right, Dark Soul: Instability does increase crit chance by 30% for 20 seconds.

The glyph of Dark Soul has a passive bonus of 3% to crit (except on cooldown) but at the cost of only 20% bonus. Could be useful.

This might be implied, but to be specific ...

The glyph is only good if you expect Dark Soul to be off cooldown due to sandbagging for higher damage phases or some such. Otherwise, it should generally be on CD constantly, so it ends up being a pure nerf.

That said, I use it for questing because I'm not usually blowing DS to kill 3 mobs.


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Re: [Classes] Warlock 5.0.1

I agree with you on the Demonology change. I liked Metamorphosis being a cooldown, instead of switching in and out. Maybe it'll just take some getting used to. I went Destro for now leveling up, perhaps once I hit 90 and dungeons I'll give Demo another shot.

And yeah, I avoided Affliction because of the watching DoTs/timers/cooldowns bit.
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