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Braincramp

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Re: [MoP] Heart of Fear and Garalon

After spending a grand total of 2.5 hours of wipes I finally got a group that downed it. The strat we used was ranged dps the body and melee dps the legs. A lot of the ranged would help on the legs, but the main focus was body dps for us at range.

As a priest, I stood in the dotted circle and dpsed the body and dotted as many legs as possible. Also helps if the dps can do a little off healing, as in I was using Halo, PoM (on myself), and timing vampiric embrace when a lot of AoE damage thrown out due to Crush on OMGWTF DPS. I was top 3 DPS/Damage and did about half as much healing as our lowest healer, so it is possible and very helpful to the raid.

Four things definitely need to happen. #1. No one go in the purple circle, #2. Whoever is Kiting, do it slowly around the edge of the platform, #3. Tanks need to stay in front of boss so no Fury stacks happen, and #4. DPS should have maximum time in the dashed circle around the legs for max DPS(I mean seriously who wants to miss out on a 100% damage buff)

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Urynome

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How is it possible?



DarkLogix
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reply to Braincramp
That's a bad strat.

when the legs are up the body has a damage reduction buff (ie totally pointless to dps the body.)

and when a leg dies it takes a big chunk of the body's health.

Ideal is to be in the green dotted circles but more important is stay out of the purple circle, the two get close so if you can't do 1 without 2 happening don't do 1.



Jobbie
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Been finding a lot of griefers that will stand under him to get all the raid "Crushed" most of the times are the same guild so you kick one and when you get a replacement another will do it.

I don't get the reasoning behind this behavior.
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Immer
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said by DarkLogix:

That's a bad strat.

except it worked for him and he was still a top DPSer. While it can be argued that it is a less than ideal strat, calling it a 'bad' strat is a bridge too far. Ideal strat is to burn legs and dot body rather than what their ranged ended up doing, but it worked for them in that run.

said by Jobbie:

I don't get the reasoning behind this behavior.

I've never understood greifing for 'fun'. They must have already finished their clears or something.


Jobbie
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reply to Braincramp
Props to the healers on that group



DarkLogix
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reply to Immer
IMO its a bad strat because it likely won't work on reg at all and slowed the kill on LFR.

I'd accept an LFR only strat if it means a faster kill in LFR (IE stacking the dogs)

but DPSing the body just means a longer fight.



McBrain
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said by DarkLogix:

and when a leg dies it takes a big chunk of the body's health.

3%

I'll kill this dude in 25N Sunday night, I'll report back real differences in normal and LFR. Edit: I'll be carried through this dude Sunday night.
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Immer
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reply to DarkLogix
I can agree with the LFR-only strat vice possible Normal strat. Looking forward to McBrain's report.



DarkLogix
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said by McBrain:

said by DarkLogix:

and when a leg dies it takes a big chunk of the body's health.

3%

I'll kill this dude in 25N Sunday night, I'll report back real differences in normal and LFR. Edit: I'll be carried through this dude Sunday night.

I don't think I could ever do that.

If for a second I thought I was being carried I'd drop group and find one that I'm able to contribute to.

I'd rather wipe all night trying to carry someone else than spend 1 kill being carried.


Jobbie
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When you join a guild that has a massive gear advantage over you, it is natural that you are not going to put the same numbers as anyone else.

I think his issue is a gearing curve thing.
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Immer
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said by Jobbie:

I think his issue is a gearing curve thing.

Agreed. The only reason he was lower on the meters was that they were already geared from downing content. McBrain doesn't slouch... ever. He pulls more dps in his gear than most people (maybe not in his new raiding group) do at +10ilvl. Just a matter of time before he becomes a big fish in his new pond.


DarkLogix
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reply to Jobbie
Maybe...

I just wouldn't be able to stand ever being carried for any reason.

sure on my old server I knew of a guild that did that for any new member but it annoyed longer time members.

that guild would do 25H-DS and carry 5 people through while benching people that had been there for the initial progression.

heck if I had filled out their app and gotten into the main raid group (couldn't get info from them as to when) I'd likely have felt like crap till MoP.



Jobbie
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I agree, but in this case we know McBrain is already pulling the numbers above his current gear so he will get there in no time.
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DarkLogix
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said by Jobbie:

I agree, but in this case we know McBrain is already pulling the numbers above his current gear so he will get there in no time.

Ya I know he's no slouch, I just know that if I were ever being carried I'd feel like crap.


Immer
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said by Jobbie:

I agree, but in this case we know McBrain is already pulling the numbers above his current gear so he will get there in no time.

don't forget... McBrain is really using a special definition of "being carried". Most of us use that term for those who don't play well... he's using it to convey a dmg meter only.


Jobbie
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said by Immer:

said by Jobbie:

I agree, but in this case we know McBrain is already pulling the numbers above his current gear so he will get there in no time.

don't forget... McBrain is really using a special definition of "being carried". Most of us use that term for those who don't play well... he's using it to convey a dmg meter only.

McBrain is a recount pew pew whore, we all know it.
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Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.


Immer
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lol... thankfully, I had finished that cup.



DarkLogix
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reply to Immer

said by Immer:

said by Jobbie:

I agree, but in this case we know McBrain is already pulling the numbers above his current gear so he will get there in no time.

don't forget... McBrain is really using a special definition of "being carried". Most of us use that term for those who don't play well... he's using it to convey a dmg meter only.

I use it to mean significantly sub par dps.
Someone that's not playing well is just fail.

as I said I gladly do the carrying (just not of fail) but if I even think I'm being carried I would quit.

and I value raid awareness over my DPS number so long as its in the pack and not a straggler.


Jobbie
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reply to Immer
Rhenai owes me a new keyboard still.


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