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 SnakeoilIgnore Button. The coward's feature.Premium
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Re: The price of Apple products quote:
If you buy hardware for Windows and it doesn't work right, Microsoft won't help you. If Windows has a bug in it, Dell can't help you.
Now that's not true. I've seldom had problems with getting hardware to work with windows, or linux. If I did, I was able to solve the problem for myself.
Because, like many already know, calling tech support is often a lost cause.
Hence why Staples, Best Buy and others that offer computer support, seem to have a decent amount of business.
I've also known people that have apple products get ticked at the quality of the support the had gotten from Apple.
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In addition to the reliability, Apple guarantees its hardware and software all works together seamlessly. If something doesn't work, you can walk it into an Apple store and get it fixed (I don't know how far free goes into that, too). Read the Jobs biography to learn more about the quality in the hardware down to the screws.
Should it be any surprise that it's that way? Apple is a closed/walled garden. It's stuff better work. Apple controls hardware and software. Where as Windows has little to no control over hardware. Which is why if a device isn't playing well in windows, it's more the hardware manufacturers problem, because they have a driver issue.
But also, for that "wonderful seamless" stuff apple promises you, you get limited choices in how you "tweak" the hardware. As I've never owned an Apple PC [personal computer], I don't know how upgradeable, or what is upgradeable in them. I'm sure you can swap out ram and hard drives, but what of mother boards and processors?
One my courrent PCs [personal computer] I can swap out anything I want to. Though windows will have a hissy fit, linux for the most part runs with the changes.
I don't love windows, I just use it. I find windows gets bloated after a couple years of updates and slows down. Linux on the other hand seems to run zippy, no matter the number of updates.
If I had a real choice, and thanks to Steam, I shall soon. I'd buy a PC with no OS and run linux.
But as I like games, I have a PC with windows. Though the majority of my games are now on my PS3 [meaning my need for a windows game machine is very low]. And the one windows game I do play, runs fine on linux with the use of a free program called playonlinux.
But then again, I use computers like I use cars. I don't care the brand, as long as I can get from point A to B. Which any car can do. Same with computers.
Hence why I shop for what I think is affordable and offers me value for what I'm willing to spend.
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| I'm over the whole fixing computers thing. That was cool in 1990 but not today. When it comes to getting work done, I'd rather spend more on a Snap-On or a Mac wrench than a cheap crappy jaw spreading nut rounder from Sears. It's cheaper in the short term but you end up having to do more work in the long run. | |
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| Everyone is entitled to their opinion and wha they like/don't like.
For me, at this time, I can't see spending 1000 bucks or more on a computer. Though my last home built PC did cost about a grand to build. But it's lasted me 5 years, and it'll have to last a few years more.
My kids PCs were cheap at the time [we weren't going to spend a lot of money that 8 year old kids were going to use]. The computers survived 5 years of abuse, and will shortly be retired. Replaced again, by a low priced computer.
We do have plan to get them Macs when they hit college. Mainly so they'll fit in with the other kids and have a "kool" factor.
As for doing a lot of work on the windows computers in my home, I've actually had to do very little. So I am often "surprised" when I read about te problems people have with their computers. Apparently, the ones in my home aren't being used correctly, as they are pretty much problem free.
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said by Snakeoil: quote:
If you buy hardware for Windows and it doesn't work right, Microsoft won't help you. If Windows has a bug in it, Dell can't help you.
Now that's not true. I've seldom had problems with getting hardware to work with windows, or linux. I don't understand your point. If the PC you buy at Best Buy doesn't work with Windows, Microsoft isn't going to help you.
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In addition to the reliability, Apple guarantees its hardware and software all works together seamlessly. If something doesn't work, you can walk it into an Apple store and get it fixed (I don't know how far free goes into that, too). Read the Jobs biography to learn more about the quality in the hardware down to the screws.
Should it be any surprise that it's that way? Apple is a closed/walled garden. It's stuff better work.
Well, that's the point I'm trying to make.
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But also, for that "wonderful seamless" stuff apple promises you, you get limited choices in how you "tweak" the hardware. As I've never owned an Apple PC [personal computer], I don't know how upgradeable, or what is upgradeable in them. I'm sure you can swap out ram and hard drives, but what of mother boards and processors?
Except where Apple supplies it, then you are customizing and most companies won't support a product that's been modified. Neither will any Windows PC manufacturer.
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I don't love windows, I just use it. I find windows gets bloated after a couple years of updates and slows down.
Heh. I just finished reformat/reinstall Windows for that very reason.
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Linux on the other hand seems to run zippy, no matter the number of updates.
If I had a real choice, and thanks to Steam, I shall soon. I'd buy a PC with no OS and run linux.
I've run nothing but FreeBSD and Linux since 2006. Are you aware OSX is certified Unix?
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Hence why I shop for what I think is affordable and offers me value for what I'm willing to spend.
I have not bought a new computer since 2001 as Windows users "upgrade" and give me their "old" machines. It must be the economy but I haven't gotten one lately and will be building my own super-duper-colossal-craptacular-monster-god-machine....in-3D! soon. | |
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said by Snakeoil:We do have plan to get them Macs when they hit college. Mainly so they'll fit in with the other kids and have a "kool" factor.
I have two boys who graduated recently. When they started, they were the only ones who did NOT have Mac desktops or notebooks and that was 5-6 years ago. | |
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1 edit | reply to howardfine
Actually if you buy a PC from Best Buy, I would think that Microsoft won't be helping you anyway. It's an OEM Windows license so OS support is provided by the OEM, not Microsoft. If you buy the retail boxed Windows, then MS provides the support (hence the higher price). | |
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