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Teddy Boom
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Re: New Band Rates?

If I'm not mistaken, the cost of the Dry Loop Band Rate is 50% of those numbers, so under $3 for Band A, and under $6 for Band B. Is that right?

If so, $10 flat Dry Loop fees are insane, and even Teksavvy's $7.25 is a fair bit too high...
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hm

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said by Teddy Boom:

If so, $10 flat Dry Loop fees are insane, and even Teksavvy's $7.25 is a fair bit too high...

I think some ISP's charge one flat price regardless of the band rate you are in for their dry-loop. If I'm not mistaken I think Ebox & Acanac charge a flat rate of 8$ or 10$.

These so-called indi's mark it up a lot.

HeadSpinning
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said by Teddy Boom:

If I'm not mistaken, the cost of the Dry Loop Band Rate is 50% of those numbers, so under $3 for Band A, and under $6 for Band B. Is that right?

If so, $10 flat Dry Loop fees are insane, and even Teksavvy's $7.25 is a fair bit too high...

If you only knew the margins in every other consumer products sector other than ICT, you wouldn't be saying that.

Its amazing how people will gladly pay $100 for a pair of jeans that cost $3.25 to make, but when it comes to paying $7.25 extra to get Internet without dialtone, it's considered "insane" markup.
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said by HeadSpinning:

Its amazing how people will gladly pay $100 for a pair of jeans that cost $3.25 to make, but when it comes to paying $7.25 extra to get Internet without dialtone, it's considered "insane" markup.

Imagine if you had to pay an extra $7.25 because you didn't buy another unrelated product along with your $30 jeans purchase. You'd kinda feel cheated. Or worse, being told its $9.10 or more because you live in this area and not that one. I can tell you most people would probably be ticked off at that point.

What makes it even worse is the fact Bell, Telus and probably every other ILEC don't charge their own clients dry-loop fees. Perhaps there is some truth to this "insane" markup comment.

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Think of it this way - you're getting a discount because they're adding the DSL service to an existing phone line.

Regardless of what the ILECs charge their own retail customers, the fact is they charge IISPs and CLECs to use their facilities, and there has to be cost recovery and reasonable margin on that charge.
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hm

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said by HeadSpinning:

Regardless of what the ILECs charge their own retail customers, the fact is they charge IISPs and CLECs to use their facilities, and there has to be cost recovery and reasonable margin on that charge.

Didn't Bell et al also raise recently raise rates for access to facilities? Or was it to the C/O? Seems I recall seeing a CRTC filing on this.

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said by hm :

Didn't Bell et al also raise recently raise rates for access to facilities? Or was it to the C/O? Seems I recall seeing a CRTC filing on this.

Bell has filed for price increases on CO floor space as well as power.
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said by HeadSpinning:

said by hm :

Didn't Bell et al also raise recently raise rates for access to facilities? Or was it to the C/O? Seems I recall seeing a CRTC filing on this.

Bell has filed for price increases on CO floor space as well as power.

its the waaa we didn't get to buy astral so we gonna make everyone else pay scene is it?


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said by funny0:

its the waaa we didn't get to buy astral so we gonna make everyone else pay scene is it?

They'll own Astral before 2013 is over. Bank on it.

Mike


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said by dillyhammer:

They'll own Astral before 2013 is over. Bank on it.

Doubt it. In fact, I'd be willing to bet the CRTC's response will be identical to what it was before - not in the public's interest, therefore denied.

HeadSpinning
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said by funny0:

said by HeadSpinning:

said by hm :

Didn't Bell et al also raise recently raise rates for access to facilities? Or was it to the C/O? Seems I recall seeing a CRTC filing on this.

Bell has filed for price increases on CO floor space as well as power.

its the waaa we didn't get to buy astral so we gonna make everyone else pay scene is it?

No - they filed for those before the Astral deal was rejected.
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