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Sircolby45

join:2005-11-26
reply to DrStrangLov

Re: 2012 Popular Science Best of What's New Award

What a joke! Satellite "Best of What's New!" HA!

Unless somebody figures out how to defy Physics no satellite will be the best of anything.

This is what real internet looks like.




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DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
said by Sircolby45:

What a joke! Satellite "Best of What's New!" HA!
This is what real internet looks like.

Only for hard core gamers, who get lucky at having a locally good provider.

Exede is not Wildblue, and having good DSL/FIOS providers is not the norm.

Move to Alaska, your gaming scores will drop quickly.


Sircolby45

join:2005-11-26
said by DrStrangLov:

said by Sircolby45:

What a joke! Satellite "Best of What's New!" HA!
This is what real internet looks like.

Only for hard core gamers, who get lucky at having a locally good provider.

Exede is not Wildblue, and having good DSL/FIOS providers is not the norm.

Move to Alaska, your gaming scores will drop quickly.

Oh no...it is not just games. It is every single form of internet related use.

Also I am not saying that it should be compared to providers like mine. I am actually saying quite to the contrary. You are the one who keeps insisting on comparing Exede to terrestrial internet providers.

DrStrangLov See Profile

From these results, it don't look like FIOS is too hot when compared to some cable providers, or even Exede.

This statement is laughable at best. Stop spreading misinformation and suggesting that Exede could ever hope to be anywhere near the same league as FIOS. It is uttery and completely ridiculous and misleading. Exede is nothing more than a last resort solution and it will NEVER be more than that.
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DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
said by Sircolby45:

This is what real internet looks like

Reality Check:

All reviews of ACS Alaska (DSL): »User reviews - ACS Alaska

"I have 4MB DSL (fastest available in Sitka). Speed has been dwindling over the past few weeks and now is comparable to a moderate speed dialup."

Diablo III Forum - "I am in Alaska, USA (north America servers) and normal ping for me is 94-108 but with Diablo 3 (single player mode[basically playing on my own]) i have a ping of 314-368. its pretty annoying playing alone and get a lag spike that gets you killed with a HARDCORE character -.-;"
»eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4077728802

RE: From these results, it don't look like FIOS is too hot when compared to some cable providers, or even Exede.

Sircolby45 says, "This statement is laughable at best. Stop spreading misinformation and suggesting..."

The test data shown in this post, »Re: [WildBlue] Girlfriend has WildBlue...check this out!!! , was taken directly from Testmy's site.

Care to support your assertion with factual data? Are you saying land based providers don't use Traffic Management equipment? Cisco is not selling this equipment any more to land based providers? Got a cite Cisco's sales have dropped?

And do consider that Exede is a great improvement over previous and existing satellite internet. Comparisons to land-line providers is not relevant.

Note to Readers- Sircolby45 is a DSL user who has no standing here. He once used Wildblue at his parent's/grandparent's home and became quite upset when Wildblue turned DAMA on. DAMA increases ping time, latency; as noted in above post (Diablo III), higher latencies when gaming brings about frustrations (loosing).


Sircolby45

join:2005-11-26
WOW! First you compare Exede to a DSL provider and then turn around and say comparisons to land-line providers is not relevant. Do you even listen to yourself? Also notice that he is complaining about a ping that is half of Exede on a good day. Hence my point. Latency doesn't just affect gaming. It affects VOIP, VPN, Web Browsing, etc. Basically in everything except downloading latency is going to affect the experience. If you don't think latency affects web browsing then you just have never used a descent connection before to compare. It is no contest. SSL websites are a VAST improvement and even non encrypted sites are significantly faster.

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The test data shown in this post, »Re: [WildBlue] Girlfriend has WildBlue...check this out!!! , was taken directly from Testmy's site.
You completely dodged the point. Can't say I am surprised it is the only way you can continue to try and appear as if you are anywhere near correct on this. There is more to a connection than download speed. You know that, but since you are obviously on Wildblue's payroll you don't want the public to know that.

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Are you saying land based providers don't use Traffic Management equipment?
If you can find where I said that anywhere I will right now admit defeat on this argument and never post here again. Stop pulling crap out of the air.

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And do consider that Exede is a great improvement over previous and existing satellite internet.
Yah and dial-up is an improvement over messenger pigeons.

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Note to Readers- Sircolby45 is a DSL user who has no standing here. He once used Wildblue at his parent's/grandparent's home and became quite upset when Wildblue turned DAMA on. DAMA increases ping time, latency; as noted in above post (Diablo III), higher latencies when gaming brings about frustrations (loosing).
I still use Wildblue on occasion at my parents house and it is absolutely horrendous and all I use it for is web browsing. They have recently started traveling for work and all they can talk about is how awful it is going back to Wildblue after using real internet for a while. Don't try to make it sound like latency only affects gaming because that is false statement.

As per my experience with you in the past I will await your response that goes completely off topic and dodges every point I just made. Maybe in my next post I will pretend to be surprised by it.
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DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
said by Sircolby45:

Hence my point. Latency doesn't just affect gaming. It affects VOIP, VPN, Web Browsing, etc.

Latency is not an issue for my needs; it I was a hard core gamer, it would be an issue.

Judge the equipment via its technology.

People on fast cable still have issues with YouTube loading...People with "super fast" Fios will choke on extremely limited bandwidth sites.

Btw, why are you living in Texas with those slower speed limits? In Germany, the German autobahns have no general speed limit, in most all portions traveled.


Sircolby45

join:2005-11-26
said by DrStrangLov:

said by Sircolby45:

Hence my point. Latency doesn't just affect gaming. It affects VOIP, VPN, Web Browsing, etc.

Latency is not an issue for my needs; it I was a hard core gamer, it would be an issue.

Judge the equipment via its technology.

People on fast cable still have issues with YouTube loading...People with "super fast" Fios will choke on extremely limited bandwidth sites.

Btw, why are you living in Texas with those slower speed limits? In Germany, the German autobahns have no general speed limit, in most all portions traveled.

Since when were we talking about "your needs." I am talking about your insistence on comparing Exede with the likes of FIOS and Cable. Heck if your needs represents everyone in the United States needs you should have been running for president!

Oh sorry I forgot. *GASP!* He completely dodged the point DrStrangLov that is so unlike you!

This is not an argument of whether or not Exede is "good enough" for your needs. This is a matter of you making utterly ridiculous statements such as this: it don't look like FIOS is too hot when compared to some cable providers, or even Exede. Last time I checked you can actually use the speed of FIOS without getting your speeds reduced to dial-up shortly after. FIOS is better than Exede even if it had a fourth of the speed.

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Btw, why are you living in Texas with those slower speed limits? In Germany, the German autobahns have no general speed limit, in most all portions traveled.
Because if a squirrels eats the moon he will turn into a Giraffe and spider monkeys will take over the roll as Batman in the next Spiderman movie...This adds about the same amount to the conversation as that post.
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DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
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said by Sircolby45:

" I am talking about your insistence on comparing Exede with the likes of FIOS and Cable.

I cited Testmy's results....Go to Database, and Provider Results

Today, Wildblue is number seven on the list.


Sircolby45

join:2005-11-26
said by DrStrangLov:

said by Sircolby45:

" I am talking about your insistence on comparing Exede with the likes of FIOS and Cable.

I cited Testmy's results....Go to Database, and Provider Results

Today, Wildblue is number seven on the list.






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DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
reply to Sircolby45
Sircolby45 stated, "This is a matter of you making utterly ridiculous statements such as this: it don't look like FIOS is too hot when compared to some cable providers, or even Exede."

FYI, the comment was based upon consumer test results taken at Testmy. A factual statement.

My statement was founded in reality. Yours has misrepresented what was stated; a distortion of reality.

In any event, your initial comment in this thread was out of context with its focus: 2012 Popular Science Best of What's New Award

And ViaSat-1 has been a large step forward from previous satellites.

Spice300
Premium
join:2006-01-10
reply to Sircolby45
said by Sircolby45:

What a joke! Satellite "Best of What's New!" HA!

Oh no...it is not just games. It is every single form of internet related use.

I agree. Exede has no place on a list of the best new hardware of 2012. Initially Exede had potential to earn a place on that list, but Viasat's execution with high prices, no guaranteed speed, low usage caps, the Network Management Policy, mandatory leasing of equipment and a 2 year service commitment wrecked it.

The grand award winner in the hardware category is the Intel Ivy Bridge microprocessor.
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