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inGearX
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Help - where to fax to stop foreclosure "sale"

a friend has a foreclosure sale date set on Monday

he can't afford an attorney ... so tomorrow he is applying for a bankruptcy himself...

that will give him a chance to postpone the foreclosure/sale

to stop the sale he needs to fax / notify the court I guess that is doing the foreclosure "sale date" that is set on Monday

I said I will ask my friends online... here I am

ANY help is much appreciated...

Thank you...


Camelot One
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Re: Help - where to fax to stop foreclosure "sale"

You would fax it to the court handling the foreclosure case. But if it is set for sale Monday, he may be out of luck.


inGearX
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said by Camelot One:

You would fax it to the court handling the foreclosure case. But if it is set for sale Monday, he may be out of luck.

right :/

so we would just find the courts fax # and fax it to them along with all the other appropriate information and they would know what to do with it?


Zorack

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reply to inGearX
Who are you faxing it to,a Judge? Or the entity that is holding the sale? He should have thought of this stuff way before it was coming to this,he might be royally screwed.
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hortnut
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reply to inGearX
What State? Laws vary by State and seem to be very specific on Foreclosure.

Site to check for some tips for each State - »www.realtytrac.com/foreclosure-laws/

Here is an e-how article on stopping it on same day-
»www.ehow.com/how_7629676_stop-fo···day.html

Plus even though Bankruptcy is through another Court System, there are variances from State to State, such as what exemptions that can be claimed. Are they going 7 or 13?

Your friend needs to talk with an Atty ASAP. Depending where he lives there may be special programs through their State Bar for reduced fees. Or in many cases, an Atty should be able to give a free consult over the phone. Do not know until tried. Other than that Google is your friend's, friend.



DannyZ
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reply to inGearX

said by inGearX:

he can't afford an attorney ...

He can't afford to NOT have an attorney. Seriously.

I doubt this will end well for your friend this late in the game.
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dogma
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reply to inGearX
1.) He should contact NYLAG - who provides high quality, free civil legal services to low-income New Yorkers who cannot afford attorneys.... (assuming he is in New York) first thing.

2.) He has not paid his mortgage for at least 4 Months, probably more like a year. Yet can't afford a lawyer to file BK paperwork with the court on his behalf? What has he been doing with his money?

3.) Although the Foreclosure date is Monday, that is not the eviction date. Once the property is foreclosed on, the bank (assuming the bank takes back the property), must then initiate eviction proceedings, which is another court affair. I don't know about NY, but that will probably take at least 2 Months to run it's course. Probably longer.

4.) Your friend is only delaying the inevitable considering he has waited to the last possible minute to do something, and that he doesn't have the relatively small $$ for a mouthpeice. Either he has had a series of major calamities, or he's a procrastinating dead beat. Either way, Instead of assisting him with scamming the court system to score a few more Months of free housing, why don't you help him plan a strategy for a fresh start?


Beezel

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reply to inGearX
Not sure about all states, but I think you have to go to a debt management counseling class as being part of the bankruptcy qualification. The date maybe to close for it to happen. Bankruptcy isn't as easy as it used to be. Self filing is a long shot.



pike
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reply to inGearX
That horse has left the barn. The time to contact the court was when they ordered your friend to appear. Ignoring the court order generally results in a default judgement. This means the case is now closed. Thus the auction.

You'd be best advised to consult the rules of the court governing your jurisdiction, but generally it's inappropriate for a defendant to directly contact a judge. Any correspondence relating to the case should first be mailed to the plaintiff (bank's attorney of record), then properly filed in person with the clerk of courts, along with a sworn statement of proof-of-service on the plaintiff.

A simple fax won't preserve your legal rights, may get you in to trouble, and at best will get lost in a pile of other documents at the clerks office.

Your friend is pretty much out of options at this point. Their best bet is to look at the court's website, it will likely provide links to local foreclosure prevention groups that may be able to provide advice.

For future reference, and others reading this, most courts now offer free foreclosure mediation. A magistrate will sit down with you and the bank's attorney to discuss options and try to come up with a legally-binding settlement prior to going to trial. I have a friend that exercised this option and was able to keep her house.



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reply to inGearX
It's over at this point. You can't wait until the 11th hour and think you can fix stuff. There was dozens of other chances and your friend screwed himself at every turn it sounds like. Tell him to go to the sale on Monday and buy his own place back. That's his only option this late in the game. Tell him next time seek help when the process starts not after the process is 99% over.
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Jack_in_VA
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reply to dogma

said by dogma:

1.) He should contact NYLAG - who provides high quality, free civil legal services to low-income New Yorkers who cannot afford attorneys.... (assuming he is in New York) first thing.

2.) He has not paid his mortgage for at least 4 Months, probably more like a year. Yet can't afford a lawyer to file BK paperwork with the court on his behalf? What has he been doing with his money?

3.) Although the Foreclosure date is Monday, that is not the eviction date. Once the property is foreclosed on, the bank (assuming the bank takes back the property), must then initiate eviction proceedings, which is another court affair. I don't know about NY, but that will probably take at least 2 Months to run it's course. Probably longer.

4.) Your friend is only delaying the inevitable considering he has waited to the last possible minute to do something, and that he doesn't have the relatively small $$ for a mouthpeice. Either he has had a series of major calamities, or he's a procrastinating dead beat. Either way, Instead of assisting him with scamming the court system to score a few more Months of free housing, why don't you help him plan a strategy for a fresh start?

+1. He cannot afford an attorney to protect his most important asset yet he waits until the last minute and gets his friend to post on here for advice? Dogma you are right it seems like he is trying a scam to get a few more months before the inevitable.


CylonRed
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join:2000-07-06
Bloom County

reply to inGearX

Re: Help - where to fax to stop foreclosure "sale"

You can't get an answer to this question online and neither can your 'friend'.


jester121
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Lake Zurich, IL

reply to inGearX

Re: Help - where to fax to stop foreclosure "sale"

Why should he be able to stay in a house he can't afford? These bankruptcy and renegotiation delays are a large part of the reason why the housing market still sucks, which leads to the shitty economy.

Losing a house isn't the end of one's life; he goes to live with friends or relatives for a little while, find whatever crappy jobs he can to support himself, and gets back on his feet.

Tell him to man up.

nonymous
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reply to inGearX
Not all bankruptcy help is expensive. If your friend had taken the time to shop around could have probably found a bankruptcy place that uses mostly trained legal assistants with a few lawyers backing them up. You deal with the assistants who do have training plus it is all they do so have experience. they have the lawyers behind them to ask questions of or deal with the unknown issues.
They know how to stop or slow down foreclosures and all common bankruptcy issues. Usually they are not the ones advertising heavily on TV either.


medbuyer

join:2003-11-20
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reply to Jack_in_VA

said by Jack_in_VA:

said by dogma:

1.) He should contact NYLAG - who provides high quality, free civil legal services to low-income New Yorkers who cannot afford attorneys.... (assuming he is in New York) first thing.

2.) He has not paid his mortgage for at least 4 Months, probably more like a year. Yet can't afford a lawyer to file BK paperwork with the court on his behalf? What has he been doing with his money?

3.) Although the Foreclosure date is Monday, that is not the eviction date. Once the property is foreclosed on, the bank (assuming the bank takes back the property), must then initiate eviction proceedings, which is another court affair. I don't know about NY, but that will probably take at least 2 Months to run it's course. Probably longer.

4.) Your friend is only delaying the inevitable considering he has waited to the last possible minute to do something, and that he doesn't have the relatively small $$ for a mouthpeice. Either he has had a series of major calamities, or he's a procrastinating dead beat. Either way, Instead of assisting him with scamming the court system to score a few more Months of free housing, why don't you help him plan a strategy for a fresh start?

+1. He cannot afford an attorney to protect his most important asset yet he waits until the last minute and gets his friend to post on here for advice? Dogma you are right it seems like he is trying a scam to get a few more months before the inevitable.

+1

to the OP: do you really think people here would have the answer for you?

and even if people do have something to say, you or your friend MAY or MAY NOT like it at all just like what people told you in your thread...»Sandy ... mom GAVE AWAY her damaged car :/ help analyze!


hortnut
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reply to Beezel

said by Beezel:

Not sure about all states, but I think you have to go to a debt management counseling class as being part of the bankruptcy qualification. The date maybe to close for it to happen. Bankruptcy isn't as easy as it used to be. Self filing is a long shot.

For the OP-

You are right, that is part of the Bankruptcy Reform -

"The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005 (BAPCPA) (Pub.L. 109-8, 119 Stat. 23, enacted April 20, 2005), is a legislative act that made several significant changes to the United States Bankruptcy Code. Referred to colloquially as the "New Bankruptcy Law", the Act of Congress attempts to, among other things, make it more difficult for some consumers to file bankruptcy under Chapter 7; some of these consumers may instead utilize Chapter 13. Voting record of S. 256 [1].

It was passed by the 109th United States Congress on April 14, 2005 and signed into law by President George W. Bush on April 20, 2005. Most provisions of the act apply to cases filed on or after October 17, 2005. It was hailed at the time as the banking lobby's greatest all-time victory."""

--»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bankruptcy···tion_Act

For the OP-
One can still file an Emergency Bk - "" Filing an Emergency Bankruptcy Case

""If you do not have the time to complete all required schedules and statements, you may file a skeletal petition consisting of the first 3 pages of the petition, the list of creditors names and addresses (creditor list), and filing fee, or partial filing fee - see Filing Fee Payment Options. Either a 7-day notice or a 14-day notice will be issued for the missing items. Click here for detailed instructions for filing a bankruptcy case on an emergency basis.""

Note: this is for Bankruptcy District of Rhode Island.
--»www.rib.uscourts.gov/newhome/sel···case.asp

Northern Distict of California has some differences.
Filing a Bankruptcy Case Without an Attorney
(Pro Se Debtor):
--»www.canb.uscourts.gov/court-info···attorney

Nolo has some generic info on the subject.
--»www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/···ing.html

Again Google is your Friend


hortnut
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reply to inGearX
If your "Friend" has large Brass ones, he could file an Emergency BK, and then go to the sale and give copies to whoever is conducting the sale and see what happens.

I am not an Attorney, though.

I do have some questions that trouble me. What is the purpose of stopping the sale? Does your friend have the money to pay off the creditor on the foreclosure?

If he does, then why does he not have the money for an Attorney?

Or what advantage on the foreclosure does he think he can gain in the process you have outlined?

And why have you not responded to the Other Poster's questions?



hortnut
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reply to inGearX

said by inGearX:

said by Camelot One:

You would fax it to the court handling the foreclosure case. But if it is set for sale Monday, he may be out of luck.

right :/

so we would just find the courts fax # and fax it to them along with all the other appropriate information and they would know what to do with it?

to OP

I would sure check that out thoroughly. My searching did not give that as a solution. I found this at Nolo-
How Bankruptcy Can Help With Foreclosure Avoid or delay foreclosure of your home by seeking bankruptcy protection.
--»www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/···631.html

A little more on point-
My Foreclosure Sale Is Next Week. Can Chapter 7 Help?
Chapter 7 bankruptcy can delay your foreclosure sale but it can’t stop it permanently.
--»www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/···elp.html

Here are some answers from Attorneys:
Will filing an emergency bankruptcy stop a foreclosure sale even if I don't file the rest of the papers within the 14 days?
--»www.avvo.com/legal-answers/will-···983.html
Quoting one answer:
" I recently had a case where the homeowner came to me at the very last minute. We were able to stop the foreclosure with 15 minutes to spare! "

What your friend is trying to do is not for the faint of heart. I do have some personal experience where I helped Friends and Family do Personal and Business Bks, 7, 11 and 13's, some were prior to the changes in law in 2005 and since. Lots of preplanning and gotchas. And better be truthful with the Trustee and Courts.

Again I am not an Attorney and my Friends and Family all had
Attorneys.


Jack_in_VA
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So how does that change the dynamics of the problem. Sooner or later the homeowner is going to lose the house and this legal mumbo-jumbo is just another thing that's wrong now.

Pay your mortgage avoid all of this.


nonymous
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reply to inGearX
Your friend would still need to keep the house payments current. You may slow down the process but not stop it if no payments are made. Now bankruptcy may and I said may allow your friend to drop some non secured debt freeing up that money to go towards the house.
Getting a lower interest rate or reduced payments from everything I have read is mostly a long shot and luck of the draw. So if your friend is thinking of that well not common at all.
Plus there are those few people fighting the system on some technicality or another. they know the real law not the one taught to lawyers and judges. Once in a blue moon one of them has a victory or partial victory spurring on all their followers. Do not count on that either.


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