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34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

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New transit from TATA?

Gabe, out of curiosity what was the reason for TSI picking up transit with TATA (also why them with the multitude of other providers in the market)? Was this for additional capacity or diversified routes or both?

Cogent, XO, SAVVIS, Deutsche Telekom, Zayo (AboveNet), Telecom Italia (Seabone) all heavily favor TATA for inbound routes.



TSI Gabe
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both and wanted to bring in a tier 1 provider in the mix. There's quite a few changes on the transit side coming up. We will be bringing up our own node in New York likely within the next 3-4 months and changing up a few other transit providers (which I won't get into details yet). As we grow in size it's making more and more sense for us to become our own transit provider.



jmck
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likely went with TATA for cost, dirt cheap.



d4m1r

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said by jmck:

likely went with TATA for cost, dirt cheap.

x2....Unfortunately, this is most likely the case....Low cost, but also low quality.
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TSI Gabe
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there are far cheaper providers out there...


eeeaddict

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reply to TSI Gabe

said by TSI Gabe:

As we grow in size it's making more and more sense for us to become our own transit provider.

teknet though Microsoft probably wouldn't like that name


creed3020
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said by TSI Gabe:

both and wanted to bring in a tier 1 provider in the mix. There's quite a few changes on the transit side coming up. We will be bringing up our own node in New York likely within the next 3-4 months and changing up a few other transit providers (which I won't get into details yet). As we grow in size it's making more and more sense for us to become our own transit provider.

Sounds good. Keeping the capacity up on the transit side will mean we have good confidence in the core TSI network. So with the new node in NYC we'll see traffic go further on TSI's own network before it's handed off to other peers or transit providers?

bdoyledimou

join:2002-08-20
Markham, ON

Seriously? I work with TATA on a daily basis, and they can't even move a portable database from one server to the next -- they are running a transport for Tek now?


HeadSpinning
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said by bdoyledimou:

Seriously? I work with TATA on a daily basis, and they can't even move a portable database from one server to the next -- they are running a transport for Tek now?

TATA is a big company with many divisions. This particular one was the old Teleglobe network.
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Fyodor

join:2012-08-13
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Why does Teksavvy have two AS numbers?


34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

They have two separate networks.


34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to bdoyledimou

said by bdoyledimou:

Seriously? I work with TATA on a daily basis, and they can't even move a portable database from one server to the next -- they are running a transport for Tek now?

No, no one said that at all. Besides you're talking about different sets of people dealing with different parts of a very large company.

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to jmck

said by jmck:

likely went with TATA for cost, dirt cheap.

There are definitely much cheaper options and much worse like Cogent.


d4m1r

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said by HeadSpinning:

said by bdoyledimou:

Seriously? I work with TATA on a daily basis, and they can't even move a portable database from one server to the next -- they are running a transport for Tek now?

TATA is a big company with many divisions. This particular one was the old Teleglobe network.

Are you sure? If it is the old Teleglobe network, I am a little less worried.

@brad, whose cheaper than TATA? Maybe Cogent, but nobody else comes to mind. Then again, I haven't been in that sphere for a while now so...
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34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

said by d4m1r:

Are you sure? If it is the old Teleglobe network, I am a little less worried.

Yes, very much so.

said by d4m1r:

@brad, whose cheaper than TATA? Maybe Cogent, but nobody else comes to mind. Then again, I haven't been in that sphere for a while now so...

Cogent and Hurricane are.

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said by 34764170:

said by d4m1r:

Are you sure? If it is the old Teleglobe network, I am a little less worried.

Yes, very much so.

said by d4m1r:

@brad, whose cheaper than TATA? Maybe Cogent, but nobody else comes to mind. Then again, I haven't been in that sphere for a while now so...

Cogent and Hurricane are.

I thought those 3 were to only big providers at least in toronto, what others are there for isp transit?

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

said by eeeaddict:

I thought those 3 were to only big providers at least in toronto, what others are there for isp transit?

Your question isn't very clear. Are you referring to pricing? Also transit is transit.

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
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IMO TSI should drop Limelight.


NBomb

join:2007-01-23
Etobicoke, ON
reply to 34764170

I remember back in the day when you could choose between the slower transit for unlimited, or the faster one for 300GB.

Good times.


34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

said by NBomb:

I remember back in the day when you could choose between the slower transit for unlimited, or the faster one for 300GB.

Good times.

That was not a very good setup and added unnecessary complexity for TSI. There has been no necessity to do so for a long time.


TS01

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reply to 34764170

said by 34764170:

Gabe, out of curiosity what was the reason for TSI picking up transit with TATA (also why them with the multitude of other providers in the market)? Was this for additional capacity or diversified routes or both?

Cogent, XO, SAVVIS, Deutsche Telekom, Zayo (AboveNet), Telecom Italia (Seabone) all heavily favor TATA for inbound routes.

What is TATA and what they do here with TS exactly?

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

said by TS01 :

What is TATA and what they do here with TS exactly?

What you quoted already answers your question.


TS01

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said by 34764170:

said by TS01 :

What is TATA and what they do here with TS exactly?

What you quoted already answers your question.

Still no clue. Any info on TS web site or TATA site? any links?


TSI Martin
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TATA is a transit provider.
»www.tatacommunications.com/about/network.asp

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_transit

If you read from the start of the thread, it may answer your questions.

Martin



jmck
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TSI like other ISPs needs to buy bandwidth/connectivity to the rest of the internet from usually Tier 1 providers.

You can think of TSI as being a grocery store, the store doesn't actually produce all the food, the buy it from suppliers and resell it. Furthermore a grocery store won't just offer a single brand, they'll offer multiples (Coke, Pepsi, etc) of the same product.

Having multiple providers means TSI's routers can choose which provider to use for getting to a certain site (usually picking the best one), it also allows for it to not be affected as much if one of their providers go down.