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jack b
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reply to KevinSac1

Re: Mounting TV on brick fireplace - what screws and where?

Don't drill the mortar joint, that's the weakest place to install any masonry mounting.

I would use vinyl screw anchors and at least 5/16 x 1-1/2" lag bolts. Drill a 3/8 hole into the center of the face of the brick and tap in the anchor.

You can use a regular drill it just takes a little longer to do the job compared to a hammer drill.



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KevinSac1

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@jack b: Thanks.

@ everyone else: I'm aware of the other issues with mounting a tv above a fireplace (heat, height, neck strain, cable management, etc.) . If you want to debate those things, I suggest you start a new thread. This one is not about those those things.

Thanks!



cdru
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reply to jack b

said by jack b:

Don't drill the mortar joint, that's the weakest place to install any masonry mounting.

said by bryank:

You would want to drill into the mortar using a concrete anchor and a standard lag bolt.

This is why I love this forum.


mityfowl
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reply to KevinSac1

said by KevinSac1 :

@jack b: Thanks.

@ everyone else: I'm aware of the other issues with mounting a tv above a fireplace (heat, height, neck strain, cable management, etc.) . If you want to debate those things, I suggest you start a new thread. This one is not about those those things.

Thanks!

I have soft Mexican bricks. I wouldn't do that at my house.

medbuyer

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reply to KevinSac1

said by KevinSac1 :

@ everyone else: I'm aware of the other issues with mounting a tv above a fireplace (heat, height, neck strain, cable management, etc.) . If you want to debate those things, I suggest you start a new thread. This one is not about those those things.

Thanks!

sorry bud but you came in here and asked for advise from registered members...

everybody gave their own piece of their mind, whether you like the answer or not is for you to choose...

in my situation, I have a TV niche above a venteless fireplace which I've never used. if I could go back to when the house was being built, I would have them build a wall for the tv to be mounted properly.


leibold
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reply to cdru

said by cdru:

said by jack b:

Don't drill the mortar joint, that's the weakest place to install any masonry mounting.

said by bryank:

You would want to drill into the mortar using a concrete anchor and a standard lag bolt.

This is why I love this forum.

Both answers are correct. It depends on the bricks and mortar and how the fireplace was build. The original poster doesn't seem to understand that by providing a picture he would get a better answer specific to his situation instead of generic responses.

With brittle bricks (common clay bricks) or engineered bricks with cavities in them and a wide band of good mortar between layers of brick I would put the anchors into the mortar. In most cases (good solid bricks or thin layer of mortar) I would drill the bricks instead.
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natedj
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reply to cdru

said by cdru:

said by jack b:

Don't drill the mortar joint, that's the weakest place to install any masonry mounting.

said by bryank:

You would want to drill into the mortar using a concrete anchor and a standard lag bolt.

This is why I love this forum.

These answers can both be right because the typical mortar joint is 3/8" wide, so the anchors with essentially be pushing on the top and bottom bricks if a hole was drilled in the mortar joints. Drilling in the brick is fine too although (and its rare) but you run the risk of splitting the brick.

You never did say what your plans were for cable management.
Typically when you get answers on both end of the spectrum (drill the mortar/ drill the brick) is safe to say that they will both work, so I would give the quality of anchors your'e using so more concern too.

If it were me I would not mount a TV over a fireplace, but if you held a gun to my head, I'd choose the mortar joint with an anchor large enough the compress against the brick. It is easier to patch the mortar hole if you choose to move the TV later on than to patch a hole in the brick.
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Jack_in_VA
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said by natedj:

You never did say what your plans were for cable management.

I've been waiting for the answer to that too.


KevinSac1

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reply to leibold

Thanks lelbold! I've attached a picture.

Thanks!


KevinSac1

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reply to Jack_in_VA

Just to be clear, this thread is about mounting a TV on a brick fireplace, not about cable management or an opinion piece if you think it is a good idea or will cause neck strain. These are worthy topics but I think they should have their own thread and not hijack this one. If someone asked a question about a manual clutch slipping on the automotive forum, you wouldn't respond saying that you don't understand why people drive manual transmission cars and that you don't recommend it, would you?

Since many people have asked and I look like an ass for not answering, I'm planning on running the cables orthogonal to the floor until they clear the fireplace and connect them to the appropriate devices. Obviously I'm not going to hand them down in front of the fireplace Just to head the discussion off now, I'm not against a discussion about routing out the mortar and burying the cables or a different solution but that should be a different thread IMHO.

Thanks!



leibold
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reply to natedj

Based on the picture I'd think either way would be fine for mechanical strength.
However natedj See Profile raises an important point that I didn't consider:

said by natedj:

It is easier to patch the mortar hole if you choose to move the TV later on than to patch a hole in the brick.

Based on that good advise I'd pick a horizontal mortar joint (anchor will be sandwiched between bricks on the top and bottom).
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