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Lone Wolf
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Nexus Users Are Dummies?

I just purchased my third Nexus device, a Nexus 10, and was looking for accessories when I came across this gem. Matias Duarte, the Director of Android operating system User Experience at Google, says the reason Nexus devices don't have SD cards is because it confuses people. Huh?

»nexus10accessories.com/matias-du···exus-10/

Q: Why don’t Nexus devices have SD cards?

Matias Duarte: Everybody likes the idea of having an SD card, but in reality it’s just confusing for users.

If you’re saving photos, videos or music, where does it go? Is it on your phone? Or on your card? Should there be a setting? Prompt everytime? What happens to the experience when you swap out the card? It’s just too complicated.

We take a different approach. Your Nexus has a fixed amount of space and your apps just seamlessly use it for you without you ever having to worry about files or volumes or any of that techy nonsense left over from the paleolithic era of computing.

With a Nexus you know exactly how much storage you get upfront and you can decide what’s the right size for you. That’s simple and good for users.

Good questions! Keep ‘em coming!


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ptrowski
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You know it's not that far off though. In my first foray into the Android world I had assumed things were being stored on the SD card.


Snakeoil
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reply to Lone Wolf
As I owned an Ipad [funny how lacking an SD card slot hasn't hurt Ipad sales], I never had a SD card slot.
Instead I took the time to learn alternative ways of transferring files/photos.

I fell in love with photosync on my Ipad. It allows me to transfer photos from my Ipad to computer and back again, over wifi. That was before Itunes was able to do it's thing over wifi.

I've been looking for an app like it for the nexus 7. I wish they'd port it over as it's a damn fine app.

I didn't really have a need for an SD card slot though. When I did, I just used the camera kit for the Ipad.

Nexus 7 comes with USB OTG. Just need the cable and you can connect a sd card reader to the nexus and use a file transfer app to transfer the files. Or watch a video on a thumb drive.

I don't know if the Nexus 4 or 10 have USB OTG, but I would think they would.
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Hayward
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said by Snakeoil:

As I owned an Ipad [funny how lacking an SD card slot hasn't hurt Ipad sales], I never had a SD card slot.
Instead I took the time to learn alternative ways of transferring files/photos.

Of course it has hurt sales I know many who have passed them by including me. Yeah there sales a re fine but might be better.

And it has nothing to do with transferring things of the device, but increasing the amount of storage possible.

I hate fixed memory, especially at the price increase vs the actual cost of the memory for larger models and otherwise same device.
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Koil
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But not everyone is an "enthusiast" and willing to, or even want to, mess around with it. I personally wouldn't go with it, but I can see the strategy behind it, and it looks like it didn't mess w/ Apple too much.


Hayward
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Well figure every Asus Transformer, Samsung Tab, Toshiba, or other high end Android tablet could have been an iPad but wasn't, largely for simple things like no SD slot, HDMI out, or native USB. (And of better un Jobs ego inflated price)

Dongles are just one more thing to carry/loose.
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Snakeoil
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said by Hayward:

Well figure every Asus Transformer, Samsung Tab, Toshiba, or other high end Android tablet could have been an iPad but wasn't, largely for simple things like no SD slot, HDMI out, or native USB. (And of better un Jobs ego inflated price)

Dongles are just one more thing to carry/loose.

I agree dongles are just one more thing to carry/loose.
Which makes me wonder why no one has developed a USB drive that has either built in blue tooth/wifi connection.

Like I've said about the Ipad, there are app developers out there that do develop apps that allow you to move files just using wifi.
I haven't found any in the google store [granted I haven't looked that hard].
But they may exist for google devices, just like they do for the IOS devices.
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Sandman
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said by Snakeoil:

I haven't found any in the google store [granted I haven't looked that hard].

They're out there. I actually use AirDroid for wifi file transfers »play.google.com/store/apps/detai···h_result
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Snakeoil
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Thank you.


Hayward
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said by Snakeoil:

I agree dongles are just one more thing to carry/loose.
Which makes me wonder why no one has developed a USB drive that has either built in blue tooth/wifi connection.

Well again why go to that trouble??? VS just a simple really no cost SD slot.

And here is what it boils down to, to me with an ASUS Transformer which can do what no (an even Jail Broken still limited iDevice can't do). Download ANYTHING from anywhere not just iTunes stuff, and put it anywhere you want at anytime. iDevice you are forever stuck with that storage you originally bought and no more ever no matter what.

Oh yeah something else not an Apple a File Manager... just move some thing from here to there...

And yes most apps default to storing to stuff to the internal SD partition. But there is a lot of stuff I know I want to save bit not necessarily watch at home, just move it to the EXT SD.

Can store it to my 1TB WD USB powered Passport drive (it will power) for my Roku... and still have the space to store to watch on the Asus and delete as I do since stored on the WD.

Again its about versatility and possibility CrApple just by INTENTIONAL design wanting to control everything just will not offer or ALLOW.

Transformer with keyboard/dock also sec battery will absolutely run heavy duty all day (unless you never sleep)...plus 2 SD slots, and a true host USB A port.... again with second Batt can even power something like a WD Passport USB HDD for sometime. In fact using heavy duty like streaming video... rarely even tax the Tab batt by more than 20%, just KB, which by design is drained first.

NO dongles no need to do that crap just, a very diversely near true PC touch screen functional device. Most that see tab attahed assume some kind of netbook until I detach it and use it as just tab.

Again why pay several hundred dollars more for an intentionally ego/corp severely crippled device.

Just because it has a rotting half eaten Apple on it?

iPad max 64GB.... Asus 32 GB TF with extra Batt dock.... two SD slots (one tab one dock) 96 GB and that last 64 GB just cost of SD cards not ridiculously inflated cost for no device improvement.

Again on an iDvice an Impossibility.... but for much less cost I can enjoy being able out, to do just about everything I can at home, and for much lower cost.

And the Apple doids have never thought about it, since its always been that way (Phone and Touch), and just never looked elsewhere, to see there is a whole universe out there beyond ULTRA Restrictive We ARE Your World Apple.

And yeah sadly like the Nexus guy (and might be the corp though but loosing sales) said there are a whole lot out there that just can't fathom another set of directories (but do at home on their PC or Mac) the closed iDevices and sadly shouldn't be Nexus are designed for.
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Lowtarget
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There is mobile wireless storage devices out there. Which basicly act's like a wifi hotspot for upto 3 devices. Which will allow 3 devices to access the files on it. »www.amazon.com/Seagate-Satellite···04Z0S7K6

Don't know how the device works nice I don't own one. Just bought my nexus 7 three days so and loving it.


Snakeoil
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Dang, 100 bucks, not bad.


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reply to Lone Wolf
Wow.... "It's just too complicated" to have a choice of what media to write data to? What an offensive statement.

Let's write this again using physical analogy:

"If you're putting away socks, pants or shirts, where does it go? Is it in your closet? It's it in your dresser drawer? Should you have to choose everytime? How can you remember where they went? It's just too complicated!"

"We take a different approach. Your bedroom has a fixed amount of wardrobe storage and all your stuff goes in one box without you ever having to worry about drawers or clothes hangers or hampers or any of that nonsense left over from the paleolithic era of housekeeping."


Sandman
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reply to Lone Wolf
I think you guys are getting all bent out of shape over nothing. Matias is not talking about your average dslreports.com user, most of us are power users, he's talking about the average user.
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DarkLogix
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Honestly the Nexus aren't for the "average" user.


RenHoek
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reply to Lone Wolf
As long as they build them with enough internal memory, it isn't an issue.

My original Droid came with a slot pre-filled with a 16GB card.

My Galaxy Nexus doesn't have a slot, but came with 32GB internal memory.

Can't say I've missed the memory slot one bit.
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DarkLogix
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IMO just ditch any built in memory and use a micro-sd card in its place.

w/ a second slot available.

My nexus 1 is near the limit of built in storage because some files just won't go to the SD card.


Hayward
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reply to Lowtarget
Interesting it is only for iPads (and phones I suppose).

if it requires an App you'd think they would do an Android one too.

Then again with 96 GB on my TF I don't really need it, but might be nice for sharing stuff.

Or I could also just take along my 1TB WD pocket USB drive normally on my ROKU, since the Transformer has a full standard USB port, and plenty of battery to run it.
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