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computerman2
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Mcafee Antivirus? Good or Not Good

Hi All

Asking for a friend of mine, she bought a new PC from walmart with customer care plan as well, anyways can get Mcafee Antivirus and Data backup for a year, and she wonders if it's worth activating, I originally told her to stay with Windows Defender in Windows 8 Pro 64bit, but she said it failed certification, so she is asking me to find out more


CylonRed
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You need to find out what she means by ' it failed certification'

Personally - I think there are many free AVs that do as well if not better than the big 2 (McAfee/Symantic).
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StuartMW
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What she meant was probably this.

»MSE fails AV-Test, loses certification
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computerman2
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join:2002-04-20
Rockwood, MI
reply to CylonRed
Think she means the info on Microsoft Security Essentials failing certifation with Av-test recently, not sure exactly, and I agree plenty of free options that do as well or better than Mcafee and Symantec


La Luna
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reply to computerman2
Some ideas here (from 2011):

»2011 Anti Virus Poll


Ian
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reply to computerman2
To each their own. There were some threads on the whole MSE "failing". Personally, I think my habits aren't such to be exposed to a whole lot of zero-day exploits, but your friend may be different.

Seems pretty pricey given the free alternatives. Edit: missed that it was free for a year...
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slajoh01

join:2005-04-23
Avoid MSE all together...

slajoh01

join:2005-04-23
reply to computerman2
The "Home" versions of McAfee or Symantec are no good. But If you really want to get your money's worth, then the enterprise ones do a far more better job than the home versions of McAfee products.

Or, I would get NOD32, thats another good one to try out.

Personally, I would suggest to avoid the free solutions. But thats just me though.


Ian
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reply to slajoh01
said by slajoh01:

Avoid MSE all together...

I've been using it ever since a new Avast! update caused me a ton of problems. No problems thus far. Then again, as I mentioned, I don't browse in a very insecure manner in the first place, and take other precautions.
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jodiedunnit

@pacbell.net
reply to computerman2
I would not use it any more.
I installed IE9 public preview and it didn't didn't get along with McAfee at the time, it froze the PC solid, and I couldn't get it to run again. I had to do a re install of windows.
When I contacted McAfee's support, I got a response of "Oh yeah, sometimes that happens."
Their support forum is/was filled with links to porn sites.
Their program was also expanding into new ventures besides antivirus, with new bloatware growing every year.

computerman2
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Ended up showing her the Avast site, and decide to go with that, at the moment.

Might resume using Avast soon on my own PC, tried Norton 2013 a while, but considering using Avast soon on my own machine...should be fun removing Norton Completely from Windows 8 Pro 64bit lol, but think just use the removal tool, and all that, and I should be fine I think


aussiedog

join:2007-01-10
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said by computerman2:

Ended up showing her the Avast site, and decide to go with that, at the moment.

Be alert to the installation of Google Chrome with Avast! Best to do a custom install to catch the minute opt-out for GC.
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computerman2
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Yes I knew about that already, had Avast on 4 other house hold PC's here, so was well aware of Google Chrome opt out

But thanks for pointing that out...helpful in case I did forget about that


workablob

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reply to computerman2
said by computerman2:

Hi All

Asking for a friend of mine, she bought a new PC from walmart with customer care plan as well, anyways can get Mcafee Antivirus and Data backup for a year, and she wonders if it's worth activating, I originally told her to stay with Windows Defender in Windows 8 Pro 64bit, but she said it failed certification, so she is asking me to find out more

I am the Anti-Virus Czar at work and we run McAfee with ePolicy Orchestrator to manage it. McAfee failed to catch the w32 autorun and it wreaked havoc on our network for a few days and caused a few late nights at the office for me.

McAfee missed it and MSE caught it and removed it.

McAfee was very helpful in issuing us special unreleased Extra.dat files and stingers as they identified new variants.

I can run McAfee VS Enterprise for free if I want to at home but I use MSE known in Win 8 again as Defender.

Dave
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slajoh01

join:2005-04-23
Have u even read this about MSE?
I would be just as much concerned...

Still dont trust the built-in Windows AV products...Or any FREE third party AV products for that matter.

I would still be using the Enterprise versions.
Maybe the EPO is not set on a schedule to run DAT updates immediately on client PCs upon boot time unlike running them for a specific times.
Maybe thats why it did not catch it.

computerman2
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While i'd like to avoid the free Antivirus solutions for my own Personal household Computers here, affording say like Symantec Norton Antivirus or Mcafee for 4 PC's, isn't exactly easy in today's economy...

So just try to be as safe as I can with Free Avast solution, and hopefully have no major infections or other issues


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reply to slajoh01
said by slajoh01:

Have u even read this about MSE?
I would be just as much concerned...

Still dont trust the built-in Windows AV products...Or any FREE third party AV products for that matter.

I would still be using the Enterprise versions.
Maybe the EPO is not set on a schedule to run DAT updates immediately on client PCs upon boot time unlike running them for a specific times.
Maybe thats why it did not catch it.

Our ePO gets the latest dats less than 12 hours after they release each day.

I don't like to release the dats to the users until after a bit so as to ket the other customers test them first.

It happens at least once a year that some bad dats get out and cause headaches for IT.

These were new variants to McAfee so until they had a week or so to investigate their dats were useless.

But MSE caught it on the first day of our outbreak.

Dave
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aussiedog

join:2007-01-10
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reply to slajoh01
said by slajoh01:

Have u even read this about MSE?

Still dont trust the built-in Windows AV products...Or any FREE third party AV products for that matter.

...no link to read from. However, trusting any product explicitly is to ignore one's personal reason and skills. I like to give my less tech inclined clients a simple safety net such as MSE (plus EMET) then have them update and run SuperAntiSpyWare and/or MBAM weekly. There are plenty of variables when it comes to personal computer/internet habits but some basic guidelines and the use of free MS and third party software can take care of most users.

Me? I just hide my head under the bucket and hope for the best...
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ZZZZZZZ
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reply to computerman2
Mcafee is a bloated pig running something like a dozen services...avoid it at all costs.

Avast free is still the best option with their protection.
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Rebrider
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reply to Ian
said by Ian:

said by slajoh01:

Avoid MSE all together...

I've been using it ever since a new Avast! update caused me a ton of problems. No problems thus far. Then again, as I mentioned, I don't browse in a very insecure manner in the first place, and take other precautions.

I did the same thing. Had problems with Avast and went to MSE.
It all comes back to what I have been saying for years.

The most important part of computer security is you the user.

There is not a program out there that can protect you from careless surfing and bad habits.


owlyn
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reply to ZZZZZZZ
said by ZZZZZZZ:

Mcafee is a bloated pig running something like a dozen services...avoid it at all costs.

Avast free is still the best option with their protection.

McAfee Enterprise is on my work laptop. I can always tell when the weekly scan is running, as my machine slows down so much that I can barely get any work done. Just to be sure, I check in Task Manager, and sure enough- there it is. As soon as my machine gets back to normal speed, I check again, and the McAfee scan process is gone.


DownTheShore
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reply to computerman2
Sometimes when making recommendations for AVs and anti-malware software, I find it's necessary to take into account the level of computer knowledge and interest of the person with the computer. For some, the easiest set-and-forget software is the best, even if it might not be the superior product. It comes down to how interested the person is in updating, responding to multiple alerts, etc. If they aren't going to pay attention to them, they aren't going to benefit from the increased protection
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slajoh01

join:2005-04-23
Actually if ur OS is ALL patched up and running behind a NAT router plus enabling the Windows FW, you should be fine running a decent AV program. But make sure it has Heuristic and Resident real-time scanning features. Thats all u need. Nothing else. No bells and whistles...and all that bloated junk.

Also, people are overlooking this too many times that OS and software patches are even more important than running an AV program.


antdude
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reply to La Luna
said by La Luna:

Some ideas here (from 2011):

»2011 Anti Virus Poll

We need a 2012! Things change over a year!

computerman2
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Thanks Everyone for the replies, so far friend says no issues with Avast Free, of course did ask what one alert meant, when it popped up web shield alert, explained it, and she was like oh ok

Just hope when it comes time to update the program to Avast 8, won't be any issues then , but I guess i'll see on that part

As for my own machine running great with Avast Free currently...Possibly may do a clean install of Windows 8 for my own machine when Avast 8 comes out, (Previously when I installed Windows 8 Pro 64bit, did over top install of WIndows 7 64bit)


Dustyn
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reply to antdude
said by antdude:

said by La Luna:

Some ideas here (from 2011):

»2011 Anti Virus Poll

We need a 2012! Things change over a year!

That would be nice, just not enough time now to create it or to have everyone vote in time.
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