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IowaCowboy
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Springfield, MA
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Exterior Outlet Upgrade

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I went to replace the cover on my outdoor outlet with one that would bring it up to code. Pulled the old cover off and found that the box was loose, it was just held in with a couple of nails pounded into the ears on the box into the siding and the wood around it was slightly rotted. So a another trip to Lowe's and I pulled out the box and put in a "old work" box with the ears that hold it in from the wall behind it. So I replaced the outlet as well while I was at it. The finished project is not 100 percent flush with the siding but I put a bead of caulk around it to make sure it is 100 percent waterproof.

I am wondering if that will make it waterproof.

The little green box hanging from it is the controller for Christmas lights.

Came out pretty good considering the the slight amount of decay around it. The wires on the old outlet were corroded so I cut them and stripped them. I also used the push terminals on the back of the outlet as well.

Rant: Each project I undertake turns into another 2-3 trips to Lowe's Depot. I originally picked up the new cover, then I backed out the screws to attach the new cover, they broke off so it turns into a replacement of the box and the outlet.

It is part of the GFCI circuit so I just used a square shaped tamper resistant outlet (another code requirement with new outlets).


nunya
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I also used the push terminals on the back of the outlet as well.

You should never use these. Always use the screws.
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cdru
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reply to IowaCowboy
said by IowaCowboy:

Rant: Each project I undertake turns into another 2-3 trips to Lowe's Depot. I originally picked up the new cover, then I backed out the screws to attach the new cover, they broke off so it turns into a replacement of the box and the outlet.

You just discovered Murphy's Law of Home Improvement: No plumbing, electrical, or <insert other tradecraft> non-trivial DIY home improvement task can be performed properly with less than 3 trips to a hardware store or home center. If an applicable task can be performed in under 3 trips, you either are a professional tradecraftsman with a ready supply of parts, or you did it wrong.


ilikeme
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reply to IowaCowboy
This reminds me of something I found at my parents old house. I went to replace an outside single outlet with a duplex GFCI and when I removed the old outlet I discovered that there was no box behind it at all! It appeared to have been broken or removed. The outlet had just been screwed to the siding as a "repair" by a previous owner.


alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
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reply to cdru
said by cdru:

If an applicable task can be performed in under 3 trips, you either are a professional tradecraftsman with a ready supply of parts, or you did it wrong.

Or you have a ton of left overs from other projects where you bought way too many things (to avoid multiple trips) and was too lazy to return the left-overs

I have enough left overs to put in 3 new outdoor receptacles!

telco_mtl

join:2012-01-06
said by alkizmo:

said by cdru:

If an applicable task can be performed in under 3 trips, you either are a professional tradecraftsman with a ready supply of parts, or you did it wrong.

Or you have a ton of left overs from other projects where you bought way too many things (to avoid multiple trips) and was too lazy to return the left-overs

I have enough left overs to put in 3 new outdoor receptacles!

thats what i was thinking, my workshop is full of spares, plumbing and electrical, as the years go by the useless trips become fewer and fewer. I am lucky though, i have a big box home center within a 5 minute walk of my house.


cdru
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reply to ilikeme
said by ilikeme:

This reminds me of something I found at my parents old house. I went to replace an outside single outlet with a duplex GFCI and when I removed the old outlet I discovered that there was no box behind it at all! It appeared to have been broken or removed. The outlet had just been screwed to the siding as a "repair" by a previous owner.

When I replaced my siding a few years ago, the outlet on the front of the house had a box installed. However the T1-11 that was originally used appears to have just been installed over the box. To cut the opening, they just whacked at the box a few times with a hammer to punch a hole. The outlet was then secured though the carefully cut holes with a few sheet metal screws that they had laying around not into the box, but just the T1-11 siding. At least they used a semi-waterproof cover. Somehow it survived that way for over 30 years.


fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
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reply to IowaCowboy
On the main house I replaced our outside outlets (porch and deck) with TR/WR and a bubble cover. I didn't use a GFCI outlet outside (it was already connected to the load side of a GFCI inside.)

On the barn I need to replace the outside outlets as it looks like the wet location covers were broken off. Again, I need TR/WR for those but I do need to get a GFCI.


Steve
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reply to cdru
said by cdru:

You just discovered Murphy's Law of Home Improvement: No plumbing, electrical, or <insert other tradecraft> non-trivial DIY home improvement task can be performed properly with less than 3 trips to a hardware store or home center.

Corollary:
said by me :

You cannot to go Home Depot exactly one time in a day: it's either zero, or 2, 3, 4, etc.


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garys_2k
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Farmington, MI
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My friend and I got an early start on replacing two furnaces in his duplex house. On our first trip to the hardware store we told the proprietor (not the sales kid) what we were doing. The first words out of his mouth were "We're open until 7 today." I think that project took five or six trips.

averagedude

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San Diego, CA
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said by garys_2k:

My friend and I got an early start on replacing two furnaces in his duplex house. On our first trip to the hardware store we told the proprietor (not the sales kid) what we were doing. The first words out of his mouth were "We're open until 7 today." I think that project took five or six trips.

It is worse when the store clerk yells out loud to his associate "See I told you he would be back, now pay up."