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NotTheMama
What Would Earl Do?

join:2012-12-06

So...

Netflix "tops out" at about 2.5?


Anon23

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megaBYTES



NotTheMama
What Would Earl Do?

join:2012-12-06

Actually, no, "MBPS" is notation for 'megabits per second' (presuming Netflix is using it correctly--can one ever really presume that of Netflix?). Supposedly, they're referring to speed, not throughput.
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trackdrew

join:2008-08-28
Columbia, MD

Mbps = "mega bits per second"
MBps = "mega bytes per second"

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_···:_b_vs_B



NotTheMama
What Would Earl Do?

join:2012-12-06

Netflix capitalized all of the letters (which is, basically, "wrong"). Also, 'mbps' is correct, not 'Mbps', for megabits per second (the 'm' representing '1,000' and not '1024'--speeds are always in decimal, not binary).
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silbaco

join:2009-08-03
USA

Cisco uses Mbps over mbps. Therefore that is more or less the industry standard, regardless of what is technically correct.



MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY

reply to Anon23
if it's megabytes, then those numbers still don't make much sense.
google fiber's connection should still be much faster than that.
and Cablevision, for example, doesn't have enough "Boost(+)" or "Ultra" customers to weight regular 15/2 numbers so much higher to get 2.15megabytes/sec.
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NotTheMama
What Would Earl Do?

join:2012-12-06

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reply to silbaco
That's like saying the hard drive manufacturers are "correct" to use GB to represent 1 billion bytes. It's not really correct, but they all do it, and we all know what they mean. A gigabyte is 1 billion bytes (because it's a metric/decimal term, though TBH it's quite acceptable for one to use it when "spelling out" GB--many do, but if you're going to spell it out and mean binary then you should use GigaByte instead->); but a GB is not (because it's binary notation). That's what "notation" is all about--conveying accurately what is meant. Thanks, but I'll continue to always use correct and proper notation regardless of what any vendor or the ISO (or Netflix) says.

Edit: I should point out, I suppose, that it's fairly irrelevant whether the first letter is capitalized when you're following it with 'bps'--which always means 'bits per second'. So whether it's 'Mbps' or 'mbps', the 'm'/'M' still refers to a decimal value (back to that whole comm. speeds always being decimal thing).

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Moropo
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reply to NotTheMama

said by NotTheMama:

Netflix "tops out" at about 2.5?

I believe everyone that replied to you didn't understand your point.

From the chart you can see, for example, Frontier at 1.49 and from this you can deduce that the figures are in Mbps, as in megabits. If the figures were to be in MBps then Frontier would be delivering on average 12 Mbps and I'm assuming this is not the case.

So this figures are in Mbps and one suddenly realizes how low they are. The fact that Google Fiber and FIOS are at 2.55 and 2.19 respectively, tells you that Netflix is the one bottlenecking with their upload. There's no doubt Google Fiber and FIOS could download faster than 2.55 and 2.19 megabits per second IF the server (Netflix) allowed it.

And that's what I think you meant by your post: that Netflix is the one that seems to top out at 2.5
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brad

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

reply to NotTheMama

said by NotTheMama:

Netflix "tops out" at about 2.5?

It says average speed, not peak. The quoted comment also goes on to clearly indicate average speeds are way way below peak speeds. So users streaming HD content would definitely be quite a bit higher than that.


NotTheMama
What Would Earl Do?

join:2012-12-06

reply to Moropo
Yep, you said it way more thoroughly than I did with my off-the-cuff remark.
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NotTheMama
What Would Earl Do?

join:2012-12-06

reply to brad
Yeah, if I were actually thinking about it when I typed it, then I probably would've said "leveled out" (guess I was thinking more of the "top" of the chart? meh.).
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folsom

join:2006-04-30
Atlanta, GA

reply to NotTheMama
If you're going to use correct notation, then Mega = M. m = milli. Unless you think 1MHz = 1mHz.



ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA

reply to brad

said by brad:

said by NotTheMama:

Netflix "tops out" at about 2.5?

It says average speed, not peak. The quoted comment also goes on to clearly indicate average speeds are way way below peak speeds. So users streaming HD content would definitely be quite a bit higher than that.

Now did you really expect someone to actually READ the blog post and get that info for themselves?


NotTheMama
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join:2012-12-06

reply to folsom
You seem to forget that the scope here is IT. We have our own notation that has worked well for many decades.
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skuv

@rr.com

reply to MxxCon

said by MxxCon:

if it's megabytes, then those numbers still don't make much sense.
google fiber's connection should still be much faster than that.
and Cablevision, for example, doesn't have enough "Boost(+)" or "Ultra" customers to weight regular 15/2 numbers so much higher to get 2.15megabytes/sec.

The numbers make sense because Netflix does not stream much faster than that.


dvd536
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Phoenix, AZ
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reply to NotTheMama

said by NotTheMama:

Netflix "tops out" at about 2.5?

because they're throttling EVERYONE.

laughable is the gigabit speeds on google fibre but with netsux throttling manages only 2.5mbps
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brad

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

said by dvd536:

said by NotTheMama:

Netflix "tops out" at about 2.5?

because they're throttling EVERYONE.

laughable is the gigabit speeds on google fibre but with netsux throttling manages only 2.5mbps

No, they're not. You clearly did not read the post nor understand what the word average means or that the numbers are an average for both SD and HD content.


NotTheMama
What Would Earl Do?

join:2012-12-06

reply to dvd536
It's fairly well-known that you don't need 1gbps in order to stream an HD video. In fact, you can get by with only a few mbps (sustained). I'm sure many of the folks on Google fiber (and every other ISP) have other things they use their connections for...
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Hayward
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Key West, FL
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3 edits

reply to NotTheMama

said by NotTheMama:

Netflix capitalized all of the letters (which is, basically, "wrong"). Also, 'mbps' is correct, not 'Mbps', for megabits per second (the 'm' representing '1,000' and not '1024'--speeds are always in decimal, not binary).

no the Case of the B is important, but actually lower case M technically would be millibits per sec. MB and Mb apply for Mega Bytes and bits...on the Net the M can really be either easily taken in context the B can't be, but tech m is mil and M is Meg.

Again the B is very confusing misused, but no one really thinks a wall wart PS has a 100 M(ega)amp output. It should be and usually is 100ma. But do some times see batteries and and PS labeled as Ma or MA which is semi wrong as there is no case to a,v, or w and can be either way and mean the same but even if capped should be mA for mil and MA for meg.

And cable has gotten fast but no one has a 20(m)illi bit connection (mbs) would be ultra slow (less than dial up)... its a 20(M)ega bit (Mbs)
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