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Re: [HD] Never Saw this SDV Screen Before What firmware version is that? What is the RNG-200N based off of? Is it at heart a DCX3500m board inside of the custom spec Comcast shell?
I thought RNG was pace but that's def. a Motorola diag screen (as opposed to pace colorful blue diagnostic 'dashboard'.)
Regarding HD channels and lineups, that sure is a nice lineup there at Brighthouse. Though I still don't understand why they have to have separate channel numbers still for HD and SD in this day an age. If an HD box is connected via SD outputs, it will just letterbox or squish the HD picture to fit an SD signal anyway. They should prefer HD signals on the channels and just make it a toggle button if you prefer to go to the SD mapping (to save DVR space or bypass a potential signal issue).
I have SD Duplicates hidden from the guide on my DirecTV setup (default setting on any HD / DVR). What I noticed is that between my wife and when her family visits, no one puts the "wrong" SD channel on anymore!
TWC is using SDV on Motorola hardware in some area's. I would imagine that "page 3" of that screen would be populated with useful info. One would have to ask motorola870 if that is the case. |
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 | said by cypherstream:Though I still don't understand why they have to have separate channel numbers still for HD and SD in this day an age. - they STILL have full analog lineups - & lots of subs that do not have ANY boxes - they have LOTS of subs w/SD-only boxes - they are JUST now starting to deploy DTA's (at least TWC is, not sure about BH...)
And since they both use SDV & basically have unlimited bandwidth, they do NOT have to worry about taking up that much (extra) space with duplicating HD & SD channels. |
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 | said by dishrich:- they STILL have full analog lineups - & lots of subs that do not have ANY boxes - they have LOTS of subs w/SD-only boxes - they are JUST now starting to deploy DTA's (at least TWC is, not sure about BH...) Its a software mapping though. -If you have an HD box, tune to channel 10, maybe the software would take you to 723 MHz, mpeg stream 2.
-If you have an SD box and tune to channel 10, maybe the software takes you to 543 MHz, mpeg stream 7.
-If you have an analog TV and tune to channel 10, then of course you tune to the analog ntsc frequency of 193.25 MHz (video carrier) / 197.75 MHz (audio carrier).
Point is, channel 10 is channel 10. If its WCAU 10 Philly or CNN or ESPN or whatever... you shouldn't have to know all these different numbers.
DirecTV's got it right here. Doesn't matter if you have a D10 or the new HR34 genie. Ch 206 is ESPN, 202 is CNN, and in my area 3,6,10,17,29,57,61,69 are exactly that. |
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 | Well I was really answering your point of:
quote: If an HD box is connected via SD outputs, it will just letterbox or squish the HD picture to fit an SD signal anyway.
My point being, EVERY sub is NOT going to have an HD box anytime soon... 
Point is, channel 10 is channel 10. If its WCAU 10 Philly or CNN or ESPN or whatever... you shouldn't have to know all these different numbers.
DirecTV's got it right here. As well as does DISH; don't disagree with you here.
At least though BH DID have sense enough to take ALL the HD channels en mass, & put them up in the 1000's - so you just add a "1" to the normal (3-digit) SD channel. HELLAVA LOT better than what we have with Comcrap here - ALL HD is scattered willy-nilly in the 600's & 900's - & co-mingled w/SD channels in those (same) ranges...  |
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 | Well because when you use an HD box it has its own firmware compared to an SD box, I think they should all just prioritize pulling in the HD signal ch 2-999. Then 1000+ make that the SD signal. |
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 | reply to dishrich The numbers do not correspond in the 1000's with Bright House Florida. The SD numbers are different than the HD. |
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| reply to cypherstream said by cypherstream:What firmware version is that? What is the RNG-200N based off of? Is it at heart a DCX3500m board inside of the custom spec Comcast shell?
I thought RNG was pace but that's def. a Motorola diag screen (as opposed to pace colorful blue diagnostic 'dashboard'.)
Regarding HD channels and lineups, that sure is a nice lineup there at Brighthouse. Though I still don't understand why they have to have separate channel numbers still for HD and SD in this day an age. If an HD box is connected via SD outputs, it will just letterbox or squish the HD picture to fit an SD signal anyway. They should prefer HD signals on the channels and just make it a toggle button if you prefer to go to the SD mapping (to save DVR space or bypass a potential signal issue).
I have SD Duplicates hidden from the guide on my DirecTV setup (default setting on any HD / DVR). What I noticed is that between my wife and when her family visits, no one puts the "wrong" SD channel on anymore!
TWC is using SDV on Motorola hardware in some area's. I would imagine that "page 3" of that screen would be populated with useful info. One would have to ask motorola870 if that is the case. well I have SDV and those screens are not even populated I gained them with the firmware update of 24.07 on my DCX3400. I was told yesterday that my area is also deploying Cisco 8742 HDC and 4742HDC along with the DCX3200Mp3 and DCX3400M and DCX3510M for navigator whole house DVR and for those that want to upgrade to them.
all of the SDV diagnostics that I have with the bigband now ARRIS (system that is deployed in the TWC North Texas (dallas lineup) is in iGuide or Navigator diagnostics. The iGuide diagnostics have a ton of info such as the id of the QAM for SDV tuning as they label each SDV QAM with an id mine are 13648 to 13672.
I went to see family in east texas and they have suddenlink and they have a DCX3400M with iGuide and it had a firmware of 22.xx and it had more info that 24.35 which I am on right now????. That box had AGC level info for each tuner under d04! |
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| reply to cypherstream said by cypherstream:Well because when you use an HD box it has its own firmware compared to an SD box, I think they should all just prioritize pulling in the HD signal ch 2-999. Then 1000+ make that the SD signal. this is supposedly going to happen with TWC's coming up master lineup coming out next year hopefully! |
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 | Looks like the new X1 box auto switches to HD. Check this video review:
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF0yQTqh7gM |
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| said by cypherstream:Looks like the new X1 box auto switches to HD. Check this video review:
(youtube clip) those screens look similar to the black version of navigator except they are more in depth and more updated. I hear that Navigator is still too buggy although they do have poster art in search and on demand searches on the DCX-M and Samsung along with 4640HDC and 8640HDC and higher cisco boxes.
I believe that Navigator 6.0 is coming out as we speak. |
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 | reply to osravens said by osravens:The numbers do not correspond in the 1000's with Bright House Florida. The SD numbers are different than the HD. I meant on the areas that did just change on the OP's links... 
And frankly at this point, I'd even take BH-FL numbering scheme as is, over the (Com)crap we have now - I believe at least all of their HD is in the 1000's; beats having to jump between what we have now... |
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 Russ join:2011-03-17 Houston, TX kudos:1 | reply to cypherstream said by cypherstream:What firmware version is that? What is the RNG-200N based off of? Is it at heart a DCX3500m board inside of the custom spec Comcast shell?
I thought RNG was pace but that's def. a Motorola diag screen (as opposed to pace colorful blue diagnostic 'dashboard'.) . . . I know that Comcast uses the RNG label with both Motorola and Cisco STBs, also. -- SA 8300 HD DVRs with Patched S25 Guide Links: 'S25 Guide Blog' 'Schedule' 'Info' 'Patch Thread' |
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 telcodad join:2011-09-16 Lincroft, NJ kudos:2 | said by Russ:I know that Comcast uses the RNG label with both Motorola and Cisco STBs, also. Yes, there are a number of different boxes that use the RNG prefix. "RNG" is Comcast's specification for "Residential Network Gateway" boxes »www.lightreading.com/document.as···lr_cable |
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 | reply to cypherstream said by cypherstream:. Though I still don't understand why they have to have separate channel numbers still for HD and SD in this day an age. If an HD box is connected via SD outputs, it will just letterbox or squish the HD picture to fit an SD signal anyway. They should prefer HD signals on the channels and just make it a toggle button if you prefer to go to the SD mapping (to save DVR space or bypass a potential signal issue).
IO cable has it, rogers cable has auto hd |
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 | reply to cypherstream directv does have some alt feeds and out of market games with the HD with a -1 at the end. |
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 | reply to cypherstream the pop says HD program so does it need the guide flag for it to auto tune?? can it auto tune to a HD channel with out needing the show to be flaged as being in HD. |
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