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me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
reply to koitsu

Re: How are Toshiba and Deskstar HDDs?

Since you seem knowledgeable in this, I've been wondering for a while but haven't had time to actually look it up with finals the past couple weeks. What exactly is the niche of the WD reds? I know green has power use, blue is balance, black is performance, but I've not yet learned what WD red's special area is.

I don't really care *that* much about price, I want a good drive more than I want a low price.


Bach
Premium
join:2002-02-16
Flint, MI
According to WD, the red drives are aimed at NAS (Network Attached Storage) boxes.

»www.anandtech.com/show/6157/west···-premium

me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
Ah, interesting. Upon reading about them I do think I'll probably get red. Its supposed to be more optimized for storage and reliability, the most important things that I am looking for.

Grated that 1TB RE4($108.99) enterprise drive is only $9 more than the 1TB red drive($99.99), would it be worth the extra $9 to go from consumer red to enterprise RE4? I know it probably wouldn't be worth $65(for what I am doing) to go from the $129.99 2TB red to the 2TB RE4 that costs $194.99, but if its not worth the $9 from the 1TB red to the 1TB RE4 then $30 to get an extra 1TB may be...


koitsu
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join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA
kudos:23
reply to me1212
It's basically what Bach See Profile (hey I like your music :P) said, although I use them for desktop drives as well (hopefully will become apparent below).

The main difference, simply put, is their firmware settings and feature set. They perform somewhere between WD Green and WD Black drives, but have the extremely low temperatures of the Greens while offering proper features that the Blacks do. They also don't suffer from stupid firmware design choices like the "LCC issue" and a couple others. And if you care about this sort of thing (honestly it should be the job of either the OS or the controller, sigh), the TLER settings are adjustable (including during run-time) and default to 7 seconds.

My """review""", per se -- keep in mind I do not care about benchmarks -- »koitsu.wordpress.com/2012/08/15/···d10efrx/

Despite my approval of the drives, my general advice, like psafux See Profile, is that any drive can fail. Do backups regularly. Expect your hard disk to fail -- by operating under that assumption, you'll be much happier when you lose a drive and aren't having to consider the costs of a data recovery company.
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aurgathor

join:2002-12-01
Lynnwood, WA
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reply to me1212
2 TB Reds are selling for as low as $125, meaning the 2nd TB would only cost you $25. So if I were to buy a WD Red, I wouldn't get anything less than the 2 TB model.

Disclaimer: I have a 3 TB WD Red.
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me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO

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I know, $30 for a whole extra TB is soooooooooooooo hard to pass up. However, I've only used 1TB, or smaller, drives so far in my live, and I've heard things about once drives hit 2TB+ complicity their reliability is far less than 1TB and smaller drives, I assume due to multiple platters. And thats why I'm conflicted right now, spend $9 more than a 1TB red and get a freaking enterprise drive(for $11 less than even newegg) or spend $30 more and get a 2TB red and be even more unsure about the life time of the drive.

EDIT: how do the red drives use multiple platters? Does it read/write to one at a time, or to both of them at once and achieve higher speed that way?

me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
reply to koitsu
Don't worry, I have everything I care about backed up in at least one place, most more than one.


aurgathor

join:2002-12-01
Lynnwood, WA
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reply to me1212
The Red has 1 TB platters. The Red and the RE4 has comparable sustained DTR, but seeks on the RE4 are roughly twice as fast. So if you need a boot drive, or a drive with lots of random access -- by all means get the 1 TB RE4. For a pure archival type storage drive, or for large files -- get the 2TB Red.
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me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
Well since its just going to be a game storage drive, the faster seek time wont really help. 2TB it is!

Thanks everyone!