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rdmiller

join:2005-09-23
Richmond, VA

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Old technology

Isn't this what smart companies do? Sell off their obsolete technologies? Media General just sold all its newspapers to become a 100% broadcast TV company.


tschmidt
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That is true.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the broadband space. Copper is expensive to maintain and has distance limitation. Its only positive is the ability to deliver power making backup easier. Fiber has virtually unlimited capacity but is very capital intensive with payback periods longer then senior management or Wall Sweet are interested in.

The various flavors of wireless are great but I think they are only going to be practical in fairly rural areas. Even with aggressive frequency reuse it is going to be hard to support locked up mult-megabit speed for everyone, in addition to the proliferation of handheld devices.

We were able to electrify the nation and provide phone service to everyone during the 1930's but it does not look like we have the political will to do the same thing today for broadband.

/tom

Kearnstd
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And the government formed orgs like the TVA because the privately operated utilities have said the same thing as broadband companies are now. "Rural America is not profitable"
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FFH5
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Tavistock NJ
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reply to rdmiller
said by rdmiller:

Isn't this what smart companies do? Sell off their obsolete technologies? Media General just sold all its newspapers to become a 100% broadcast TV company.

Here at BBR, smart companies are all categorized as evil companies. Somehow though, I doubt these smart companies care very much what BBR thinks of them.


michieru
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join:2009-07-25
Miami, FL
I wouldn't call the move smart but rather scum bag. Either way Frontier accepted the deal, no feeling sorry for yourself now.


tschmidt
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reply to FFH5
said by FFH5:

Here at BBR, smart companies are all categorized as evil companies.

Not sure I understand.

I though Verizon's move to fiber was great and over time they would have dominated the markets they are in. I was sadden to see them move aware from wired networks.

They have also been very aggressive in wireless - hence the reason for this thread. But I don't think that is a substitute for wired infrastructure.

/tom


TKJunkMail
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reply to FFH5
said by FFH5:

said by rdmiller:

Isn't this what smart companies do? Sell off their obsolete technologies? Media General just sold all its newspapers to become a 100% broadcast TV company.

Here at BBR, smart companies are all categorized as evil companies. Somehow though, I doubt these smart companies care very much what BBR thinks of them.

That's ok. Nobody cares very much what you think either.

openbox9
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join:2004-01-26
Germany
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reply to michieru
said by michieru:

I wouldn't call the move smart but rather scum bag.

It's business. Try not to take it personally


michieru
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Miami, FL
Oh I know that but that's still a scum bag move . Never said it was a bad thing for your pocket.


cableties
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reply to michieru
said by michieru:

I wouldn't call the move smart but rather scum bag. Either way Frontier accepted the deal, no feeling sorry for yourself now.

I believe the term you are looking for is "carpet-bagger".
You see, with Fairpoint, it is a southern-company that got hooked and stuck with the bill/debt of Verizon's dying copper-plant.
Now Fairpoint's investors were either narrow-minded or plan on short-selling soon.

"Verizon, using the colors of the Nazi party in their logo!"
--
Splat


Rural

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reply to Kearnstd
What I find funny about this statement,Frontier was developed for rural districts. Frontiers soul agenda is to deploy DSL or Fios to rural areas has been since there inception. Verizon was my phone company for 20 yrs and always promised DSL never delivered when Frontier took over it was up and running within 1 yr. As long as Frontier has rural areas like my when there is no other isps they will stay in the game. Frontier made this 13 state deal to deploy Internet.

raybrett

join:2001-02-20
Saint Louis, MO
20 years is hard to believe since Verizon was established in 2000.


NotTheMama
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join:2012-12-06
Changed their name you mean.


NormanS
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reply to Rural
said by Rural :

Frontiers soul agenda is to deploy DSL or Fios to rural areas has been since there inception.

Frontier has no "soul", but they have "flounder" by the ton!
--
Norman
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~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum


Pathfinder
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Mount Vernon, NY
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reply to cableties
said by cableties:

I believe the term you are looking for is "carpet-bagger".
You see, with Fairpoint, it is a southern-company that got hooked and stuck with the bill/debt of Verizon's dying copper-plant.
Now Fairpoint's investors were either narrow-minded or plan on short-selling soon.

"Verizon, using the colors of the Nazi party in their logo!"

Fairpoint didn't get stuck with anything. They stuck themselves. If they and their bank of lawyers didn't see this coming then shame on them.


michieru
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join:2009-07-25
Miami, FL
reply to cableties
Never heard the term carpet-bagger until now. Well said and yes someone screwed the pooch at Fairpoint to make it happen. Who ever said "let's do this" was dumb as rocks or got a guaranteed position in Verizon.