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steelingbox

join:2005-07-09
Deltona, FL
reply to rabeatz

Re: Every channel flagged as copy once?

Well it isnt going to help anyone that has a cable company that flags everything as copy once. XBMC or any other open source project is not going to license DTCP-IP unless I have misunderstood the article.

rabeatz

join:2012-11-26
Winter Springs, FL
My hope is that SiliconDust develops some sort of closed source DTCP-IP plugin for xbmc since it'd seem that they're already paying for the licensing. That's my hope but we'll see what actually pans out.


steelingbox

join:2005-07-09
Deltona, FL

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said by rabeatz:

My hope is that SiliconDust develops some sort of closed source DTCP-IP plugin for xbmc since it'd seem that they're already paying for the licensing. That's my hope but we'll see what actually pans out.

I have dropped Brighthouse cable and Im giving up on SiliconDust too. I purchased the 6 tuner model when it first came available but it looks like they have completely erased any traces of its existence from the internet, for what reason I have no idea.
Im now using an OTA antenna, 4 Happauge tuners, MythTV backend, and XBMC connected to all of my tv. I am extremely pleased with the setup and kinda upset I didnt do it sooner.


BHNtechXpert
BHN Staff
Premium,VIP
join:2006-02-16
Saint Petersburg, FL
kudos:153
said by steelingbox:

said by rabeatz:

My hope is that SiliconDust develops some sort of closed source DTCP-IP plugin for xbmc since it'd seem that they're already paying for the licensing. That's my hope but we'll see what actually pans out.

I have dropped Brighthouse cable and Im giving up on SiliconDust too. I purchased the 6 tuner model when it first came available but it looks like they have completely erased any traces of its existence from the internet, for what reason I have no idea.
Im now using an OTA antenna, 4 Happauge tuners, MythTV backend, and XBMC connected to all of my tv. I am extremely pleased with the setup and kinda upset I didnt do it sooner.

Erased your existence?
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~All truth goes through three phases. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer ~



steelingbox

join:2005-07-09
Deltona, FL
No BHN. Try looking for the 6 tuner prime and you will come up empty handed.


bigdaddy

join:2009-11-18
kudos:2

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said by steelingbox:

Try looking for the 6 tuner prime and you will come up empty handed.

Look's like it's been Discontinued and for good reason you know the HDHR3-6CC-3X2 needed two cable cards, two tuning adapters and two Gigabit Ethernet port's it was basically two unit's in one. And no the Product page was not Erased from the innternet here is the URL »www.silicondust.com/products/mod···6cc-3x2/

Keep an eye out for new products form silicon dust and ceton corp at this year's CES 2013.

rabeatz

join:2012-11-26
Winter Springs, FL
said by bigdaddy:

said by steelingbox:

Try looking for the 6 tuner prime and you will come up empty handed.

Look's like it's been Discontinued and for good reason you know the HDHR3-6CC-3X2 needed two cable cards, two tuning adapters and two Gigabit Ethernet port's it was basically two unit's in one. And no the Product page was not Erased from the innternet here is the URL »www.silicondust.com/products/mod···6cc-3x2/

Keep an eye out for new products form silicon dust and ceton corp at this year's CES 2013.

Yeah, the 6 tuner prime was essentially two of the three tuner ones stacked on top of each other.


steelingbox

join:2005-07-09
Deltona, FL
reply to bigdaddy
Not really sure why it was a good reason to discontinue it as the appeal of the device was to place everything in one unit. Requiring 2 cable cards is a limitation by the card itself and not the hardware. You still need 2 cable cards, 2 tuning adapters, and 2 ethernet ports if you want/require 6 streams but now you have to add an extra power cord to the mix, 2 devices you cant mount in a rack, and would require you to spend about 75-100 dollars more buying the two 3 tuner models compared to the 6 tuner.
I guess this is going to make it hard for me to unload this thing on ebay now that its a discontinued item.

CableGuRu

join:2012-03-02
Geneva, FL

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Actually...its a hardware/system limitation. The cable card (s) we use have a limit of 6Stream. However, BHN system is not setup(yet??BHNTechExpert would now more on when and if we expect to support it) to allow anything more then 2 out of the cablecard.

note: here is the spec sheet on the cards we use

»www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collate···99eb.pdf

ecollin23

join:2012-12-15
Orlando, FL

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Don't you allow M-cards to support 4 streams on Ceton InfiniTV products? I think the SiliconDust limitation is based more on the fact that they support operation in a 100 Mbit LAN environment. Ceton uses USB and/or PCIslots both of which have more bandwidth than a 100Mbit lan. I have a SiliconDust tuner and one Cablecard supports all three tuners and one tuning adapter.

CableGuRu

join:2012-03-02
Geneva, FL
I would have to check with BHNtechXpert to be 100% sure only because I have not seen nor heard of any of my guys running into quads out in the field; only the duals.

ecollin23

join:2012-12-15
Orlando, FL
People that have multiple tuner devices that use cablecards will do almost anything to keep the cable company from coming inside their house They don't want to have to explain their setup to someone who will never believe it can work. They will pick up the card and call in for activation or use a forum like this where people appear to have more experience with the new products. I believe that is why your guys haven't seen them in the field.

ecollin23

join:2012-12-15
Orlando, FL

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I also want to take this opportunity to share my reasons for even trying such bleeding edge technology. I went for several years using the converter boxes. About three years ago I bought an audio receiver that has the ability to switch HDMI signals. When I called Brighthouse to see if they had any HDMI converter boxes I was told I would have to drive in and see because the agents on the phone cannot see what is in the store. To make a long story short they didn't have any HDMI converter boxes in stock AND they had closed the office near me so I had to drive much farther just to find out they did not have what I needed. They told me I could schedule a truck roll but they could not guarantee what boxes the tech would have. I am not saying Brighthouse is a bad company. What I am trying to convey is that by allowing me to buy and install the products that are important to me, you have created a very loyal customer. No other Orlando programming provider gives me that choice and I appreciate the fact that you do.


BHNtechXpert
BHN Staff
Premium,VIP
join:2006-02-16
Saint Petersburg, FL
kudos:153
said by ecollin23:

I also want to take this opportunity to share my reasons for even trying such bleeding edge technology. I went for several years using the converter boxes. About three years ago I bought an audio receiver that has the ability to switch HDMI signals. When I called Brighthouse to see if they had any HDMI converter boxes I was told I would have to drive in and see because the agents on the phone cannot see what is in the store. To make a long story short they didn't have any HDMI converter boxes in stock AND they had closed the office near me so I had drive much farther just to find out they did not have what I needed. They told me I could schedule a truck roll but they could not guarantee what boxes the tech would have. I am not saying Brighthouse is a bad company. What I am trying to convey is that by allowing me to buy and install the products that are important to me, you have created a very loyal customer. No other Orlando programming provider gives me that choice and I appreciate the fact that you do.

In all honesty there's a reason why reps cannot call the lobby locations and simply stated we want the lobby reps focused on you not our reps calling them. We no longer have HD boxes without HDMI so this won't be a problem going forward
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CableGuRu

join:2012-03-02
Geneva, FL
reply to ecollin23
very much so but at the same time their are people that try this and instead they end up making it more complicated by doing it themselves instead of letting us just come out and set the cards and tuning adapters up properly. When your dealing with one or two sets of 13digit cablcard and host id numbers...lol..its easy to get dyslexic and if that happens there's a chance the cable card can be "bricked" and have to be replaced. Which then makes it worse because our allotment of cable cards are shared between multiple area contractors.

Their are things that make it difficult that are out of the customers hands and some that are. If someone is able to get it installed without us coming out..more power too ya..but for the sake of future eq, time and signal issues I would personally prefer the in-house visit

rabeatz

join:2012-11-26
Winter Springs, FL
reply to CableGuRu
said by CableGuRu:

Actually...its a hardware/system limitation. The cable card (s) we use have a limit of 6Stream. However, BHN system is not setup(yet??BHNTechExpert would now more on when and if we expect to support it) to allow anything more then 2 out of the cablecard.

note: here is the spec sheet on the cards we use

»www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collate···99eb.pdf

I agree with ecollin2 on this - my silicondust HDHomerunPrime supports and uses all 3 tuners simultaneously with one M-Card. So I don't think 2 is the limit for BHN.