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Re: Discussion about log retention said by MaynardKrebs:said by wingedhorsey:(*) In general, at least 95% of people are sane.
Then 'splain how Harper got elected. He'll will soon be bringing you the TPP - Trans-Pacific Partnership - which will *criminalize* just about all 'copyright infringement', including removal of fair use rights and no 'format shifting' even for disability use. He's also the same guy who wants DPI at every ISP. Let me guess... Perhaps, the alternatives were even more insane ? Sometimes, the only choice is to pick a subjectively lesser evil in an attempt to avoid something which would be even worse. But I certainly disagree with Harper on this issue. |
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| I don't think anybody should be lobbying for zero retention logs. 2-4 weeks would be fair to meet the needs of law enforcement and would even give a chance to rights holders to defend their position, while minimizing larger fishing expeditions.
I suspect Voltage are pushing this case so as to either extinguish torrenting as a means of sharing/distributing content or turning it into a cash cow to them via lawsuits. Right now those willing to do so can funnel their traffic, including torrenting, via an anonymous VPN. It is anonymous because it keeps no logs, so the troll hits a dead end, regardless of how much it monitors.
If you push for zero retention of logs for ISP's, there'll be a justified outcry from law enforcement and others, who will join their voices to that of copyright trolls. You'll then see mandatory retention for logs, anonymous VPN's based in Canada would have to shut down or move out of the country, etc, etc.
We should strive to keep things fair to all parties involved, it's the Canadian way. Or was. |
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| said by Fuzzy285:I suspect Voltage are pushing this case so as to either extinguish torrenting as a means of sharing/distributing content or turning it into a cash cow to them via lawsuits.
If thats the case, then Voltagetrolls should go after the bit torrent client authors and their distributors and leave the ordinary citizens alone. Endof.
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Etobicoke, ON | said by TwiztedZero:If thats the case, then Voltagetrolls should go after the bit torrent client authors and their distributors and leave the ordinary citizens alone. Endof.
Completely retarded. So then screwdriver manufactures should be sued because they can be used to kill people. |
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| said by brad:said by TwiztedZero:If thats the case, then Voltagetrolls should go after the bit torrent client authors and their distributors and leave the ordinary citizens alone. Endof.
Completely retarded. So then screwdriver manufactures should be sued because they can be used to kill people. lol i was going to comment on his earlier and i said forget it... bit torrent wasn't created to facilitate piracy but so many people like to read in to the propaganda and believe everything they read.
Thought it was funny because first thing that came to mind was guns :/ Of which is a perfect example. |
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said by Tx:said by brad:said by TwiztedZero:If thats the case, then Voltagetrolls should go after the bit torrent client authors and their distributors and leave the ordinary citizens alone. Endof.
Completely retarded. So then screwdriver manufactures should be sued because they can be used to kill people. lol i was going to comment on his earlier and i said forget it... bit torrent wasn't created to facilitate piracy but so many people like to read in to the propaganda and believe everything they read. Thought it was funny because first thing that came to mind was guns :/ Of which is a perfect example. not to mention bit torrent inc is owned by warner brothers , they could just sue themselves |
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