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TA63
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How to determine GPF of existing toilet?

I have a ~20 year old American Standard toilet that I suspect is not a thrifty unit.

Is it possible to identify the toilet and determine the number of GPF? I am assuming that my current throne is 3.5 GPF.






A quick back of the envelope calculation shows that it empties and refills the tank to the tune of approximately 3 gallons. This ignores any water that is discharged down the tube in the center of the tank.
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ropeguru
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Have you tried looking on the inside of the tank to see if it is stamped in?


Bob
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reply to TA63
Read your water meter, flush the toilet, read the meter again.
1 cubic foot = 7.48 gallons



TA63
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That is where I found what appears to be a date. (1992)
I found no other markings.

I considered using the water meter, but it reads in m3, and isn't really precise enough.
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reply to TA63
Good question, I think low usage toilets say how many gallons per flush. Ours is printed under the brand.

If your does not, and since you did a rough measurement I agree with your estimate it is probably 3.5 gallons. Time for an upgrade.

It looks like your tank is insulated. That is one of the things I wanted to do when I upgraded ours. Surprising how effective a little bit of foam insulation is in preventing condensation.

/tom



TA63
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Yes, the existing one is insulated.
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reply to TA63
Was just a thought..


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said by tschmidt:

If your does not, and since you did a rough measurement I agree with your estimate it is probably 3.5 gallons. Time for an upgrade.

I have three toilets that are 28 years old, and there's no way I'm going to upgrade them.

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reply to TA63
You could flush multiple times until you get a decent meter reading, then divide by the number of times you flushed.
1 cu meter = 264 gallons



CylonRed
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WE just got a Cadet 3 - need to get a second one to replace out older toilet - they are fantastic (the Cadet 3s)...
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Get a gallon container.turn off the water to the tank. Flush the toilet. Refill the tank using the gallon container. do the math.



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said by PoloDude:

Get a gallon container.turn off the water to the tank. Flush the toilet. Refill the tank using the gallon container. do the math.

Woudn't take into account the water that goes down the refill tube into the bowl, which may or may not continue to run for a while after the bowl is actually full, wasting water down the drain.


shdesigns
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said by PoloDude:

Get a gallon container.turn off the water to the tank. Flush the toilet. Refill the tank using the gallon container. do the math.

Also capture the water from bowl fill tube to see how much water comes out there.


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I think I am satisfied with an estimation of 3.5 gpf being accurate enough. It matches up with the age of the toilet.
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said by TA63:

I think I am satisfied with an estimation of 3.5 gpf being accurate enough. It matches up with the age of the toilet.

Yes, the other benefit to a Cadet 3 besides 1.6 gpf is you can also get it in the height that works best, I prefer higher seating.

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said by PrntRhd:

said by TA63:

I think I am satisfied with an estimation of 3.5 gpf being accurate enough. It matches up with the age of the toilet.

Yes, the other benefit to a Cadet 3 besides 1.6 gpf is you can also get it in the height that works best, I prefer higher seating.

Don't forget to plan for those occasions, too, where you have to kneel before the porcelain idol. You don't want to strain your neck!


sfogliatelle
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The government made 1.6Gpf toilets mandatory a couple, three years after the manufactured date stamped on yours.



TA63
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Pulled the trigger.

We went for a Drake II.
»www.totousa.com/ProductDetail.as···ctId=407


1.28Gpf/4.8Lpf

(stock photo)

I installed it today, and was surprised at how straightforward installation was. This was my first toilet.

I suppose part of the ease of installation comes down to the flange being in good condition. It pays to be lucky sometimes.

The next step is to install a plug behind the toilet for the washlet seat.
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CylonRed
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Holy moley that is an expensive toilet...



John97
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reply to TA63
Nice. I am very partial to the Toto toilets.


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