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TheThing

join:2012-08-10
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reply to RRedline

Re: rose-colored glasses (Q-Q--)

said by RRedline:

The problem is that people are obsessed with gear, achievements, etc. UO was truly a virtual world, and that's what made it so cool to me.

I am not trashing WoW. I have played it (off and on) longer than any other game I have ever played, with the exception of the Street Fighter series, which isn't even an MMO. I love WoW, but at the same time I hate it. There just isn't anything "personal" about it to me, other than the few real life friends that I play with. I really think that a lot of the social features are what make it that way (ironically). Guilds are a dime a dozen, and like you, the main reason I am in one is to get the perks.

I still say it's a bait and switch. It's a cool virtual world all the way to max level, then it turns into World of Instancecraft. They might as well let you queue up for whatever right on the log-in screen. You can go to one of the opposing faction's capital cities and attack NPC's, and hardly anyone even cares because OMG IT'S RAID NIGHT!

They need to fully move PvP to the open World.

They need to fully move Raiding to the open World.

to keep the open World relevant and meaningful.

GW2 gets there maybe 25% of the way end game with open World events, which basically gets you access to tons of gold, and pretty much the best gear in the game.

To do this WoW would need to spawn Overflows servers just like GW2 does. If a hotly contested PvP zone reaches too many players spawn an overflow.

If a Raiding open world zone reaches too many players spawn and overflow.

No waiting ever... just go there and play

The only instanced portion of the game should be dungeon, which you have to actually travel to with a group of 5, to keep the immersion real.


Jobbie
Keep It Simple
Premium
join:2010-08-24
Mexico
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The current concept of overflow is crap for WoW. CRZ must die in a fire.



Snakeoil
Ignore Button. The coward's feature.
Premium
join:2000-08-05
Mentor, OH
kudos:1
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·magicjack.com

reply to TheThing

said by TheThing:

said by RRedline:

The problem is that people are obsessed with gear, achievements, etc. UO was truly a virtual world, and that's what made it so cool to me.

I am not trashing WoW. I have played it (off and on) longer than any other game I have ever played, with the exception of the Street Fighter series, which isn't even an MMO. I love WoW, but at the same time I hate it. There just isn't anything "personal" about it to me, other than the few real life friends that I play with. I really think that a lot of the social features are what make it that way (ironically). Guilds are a dime a dozen, and like you, the main reason I am in one is to get the perks.

I still say it's a bait and switch. It's a cool virtual world all the way to max level, then it turns into World of Instancecraft. They might as well let you queue up for whatever right on the log-in screen. You can go to one of the opposing faction's capital cities and attack NPC's, and hardly anyone even cares because OMG IT'S RAID NIGHT!

They need to fully move PvP to the open World.

They need to fully move Raiding to the open World.

to keep the open World relevant and meaningful.

GW2 gets there maybe 25% of the way end game with open World events, which basically gets you access to tons of gold, and pretty much the best gear in the game.

To do this WoW would need to spawn Overflows servers just like GW2 does. If a hotly contested PvP zone reaches too many players spawn an overflow.

If a Raiding open world zone reaches too many players spawn and overflow.

No waiting ever... just go there and play

The only instanced portion of the game should be dungeon, which you have to actually travel to with a group of 5, to keep the immersion real.

One thing that I like about Rift, is the fact that Rifts open up any where in a zone and anyone nearby can jump in and have fun. But I also dislike it, because my current PC is a junker and a Rift makes the PC crawl to a stop. And this is on low render settings. The nice thing is, if you did anything at all in the Rift event you get some credit, and maybe a reward.
I think it would be "kool" to have random pop up events like that in WOW. you are out questing, gathering mats, and an alert pops up, telling you an attack is happening..
*Kinda like it does when the opposing faction players raid a town*
For example: duskwood could be attacked by a bunch of angry flea infested worgens. So a call goes out to help the town defend itself. Anyone that wants in can hit "I want in" tab, and join the battle. Everyone else would be ignored.
Or maybe a mob of drunk angry dwarfs start a bar fight in Iron forge that you have to break up.
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Is a person a failure for doing nothing? Or is he a failure for trying, and not succeeding at what he is attempting to do? What did you fail at today?.


I AM
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join:2010-04-11
Ephrata, PA
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That's called...Dynamic Events. Try GW2 =)



TheThing

join:2012-08-10
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said by I AM:

That's called...Dynamic Events. Try GW2 =)

^This, exactly GW2

However, GW2 at end game lacks a lot of gear progression like other MMOs, like WoW

You get exotic gear at max level... and that's pretty easy to get, and that's about it

the next step is legendary and ascended gear, which are 95% cosmetic upgrades only... and offer very little stat improvement

WoW Progression + GW2 random events = bath salts


Snakeoil
Ignore Button. The coward's feature.
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reply to I AM
I would if I could afford it. But sadly many gaming companies are so proud of their product, it's beyond my reach to play.

Add to that, my PC is 6 years old, and I doubt it would run GW2. Now if it was available on the PS3 [I don't know if it is or not], and in the bargain bin for about 10 to 20 bucks, then I'll give it a try.
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Is a person a failure for doing nothing? Or is he a failure for trying, and not succeeding at what he is attempting to do? What did you fail at today?.



TheThing

join:2012-08-10
kudos:1

GW2 is no silver bullet by anymeans, but imo it is great, but not for everyone

what are your system specs... during beta my old machine could not handle it, after beta it could(on low settings) cause the game was optimized at that point



Snakeoil
Ignore Button. The coward's feature.
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It's a quad core AMD phemon processor, 2 GB of ram [the max the economy valued MB will accept], a nvida 7900GT video card [could be a 9800, I seldom use that box, I use my linux box more], windows vista.
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Is a person a failure for doing nothing? Or is he a failure for trying, and not succeeding at what he is attempting to do? What did you fail at today?.


Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ

reply to TheThing

said by TheThing:

said by RRedline:

The problem is that people are obsessed with gear, achievements, etc. UO was truly a virtual world, and that's what made it so cool to me.

I am not trashing WoW. I have played it (off and on) longer than any other game I have ever played, with the exception of the Street Fighter series, which isn't even an MMO. I love WoW, but at the same time I hate it. There just isn't anything "personal" about it to me, other than the few real life friends that I play with. I really think that a lot of the social features are what make it that way (ironically). Guilds are a dime a dozen, and like you, the main reason I am in one is to get the perks.

I still say it's a bait and switch. It's a cool virtual world all the way to max level, then it turns into World of Instancecraft. They might as well let you queue up for whatever right on the log-in screen. You can go to one of the opposing faction's capital cities and attack NPC's, and hardly anyone even cares because OMG IT'S RAID NIGHT!

They need to fully move Raiding to the open World.

No no and No.

You likely never played Everquest, If you had a job you likely missed the raid content that was spawned. I did enjoy the race for dragons in EQ. But these days its nice to know the guild has set nights we get together and do things and that said things will not have been killed at 3am by people in another timezone.
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RRedline
Rated R
Premium
join:2002-05-15
Williamsport, PA

said by Kearnstd:

No no and No.

You likely never played Everquest, If you had a job you likely missed the raid content that was spawned. I did enjoy the race for dragons in EQ. But these days its nice to know the guild has set nights we get together and do things and that said things will not have been killed at 3am by people in another timezone.

Scheduled raids is exactly what I DON'T want. I have a job, and I have a social life. I am NOT going to commit myself to playing on any schedule. I like to log on, see which friends are online, party up and have fun. Ultima Online was GREAT for that type of player, at least it was when I played it

BTW Snakeoil, I must have played way before you did. Most of what you said doesn't sound familiar at all. Archery ruled the day when I played...everyone ran with a heavy crossbow and magic. Kerplunk, kerplunk, "Corp Por!"

I remember vanquishing weapons, but you were crazy to run around with a good weapon without backup. I had a vanquishing bow that I almost never used because I was afraid of losing it. I played around late 2008 until 2000ish. I am not kidding when I say it was the most fun I ever had online.
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One nation, under Zod!


Archivis
Your Daddy
Premium
join:2001-11-26
Earth
kudos:18

said by RRedline:

I have a social life.

quote:
Williamsport, PA
Yeah right.


I AM
Premium
join:2010-04-11
Ephrata, PA
kudos:4

HEY. Us folks in PA now have Amish Mafia to worry about!



Archivis
Your Daddy
Premium
join:2001-11-26
Earth
kudos:18

Not in my area or your area. If we were in Lancaster? Maybe.



I AM
Premium
join:2010-04-11
Ephrata, PA
kudos:4

I'm in Lancaster. Not sure where the show is shot though as most Amish here are really nice. OR ARE THEY?!



Carpie

join:2012-10-19
united state
kudos:1

reply to I AM
PA +1

It's pretty interesting how many PA players there are. I've randomly solicited new recruits for the guild for the past month and I bet 60% of all the people who have joined have been from PA.

Out of all the servers across the US, and out of all the people across the US on my server... Odd how that works.

And it's a pretty much a split 50/50 female vs male.

AND we talk and don't just login and ignore one another or show up for set raid times. It's small enough still to have everyone on a first name basis. Pretty crazy.



RRedline
Rated R
Premium
join:2002-05-15
Williamsport, PA

reply to Archivis

said by Archivis:

said by RRedline:

I have a social life.

quote:
Williamsport, PA
Yeah right.

I didn't say it was an exciting social life.
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One nation, under Zod!


Snuffbox
ir nice irl
Premium
join:2011-04-15
Milwaukee, WI
kudos:4

reply to I AM

said by I AM:

HEY. Us folks in PA now have Amish Mafia to worry about!

The Amish Mafia show consists of reenactments of "stories" that supposedly happened - aka fake.

There is no Amish Mafia, they would be rejected by both the church and the community. It's really a harmful show to the Amish even more so than the recent abundance of reality Amish shows.

Edit: I know your comment was comical, I'm not directing this at you. Simply stating how ludicrous the Amish Mafia show is...

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