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Respice, Adspice, Prospice
Onion, NJ
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Re: [Need Info] iDEN Ending June 30, Must Buy New Phone

regarding coverage maps, if you use Sprint PTT, you need a solid EvDO (3G) signal.
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Thanks. As for coverage, pretty much the only system that works at the house is iDEN. CDMA, PCS, etc., work downtown, but not at the house. I suspect AT&T is up around 1700-1950MHz. No wonder they don't work at the house.. and I'm 900' from the tower!

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AT&T: 700/850/1900 MHz 700 for LTE and 850/1900 for hspa+ edge all being moved to 1900 so avoid a 2G phone. They work well in remote areas with a modern phone.

Verizon: 700/850/1900 MHz. 700 is for LTE and the other 2 for CDMA(1xRTT or EvDO). Great band for LTE but CDMA is mandatory for voice.

T-Mobile: 1700/1900 MHz for hspa+ and EDGE. One reason I think T-Mo currently sticks to more densely populated areas.

Sprint CDMA(Boost Mobile btw). 1900/2300 MHz. Sprint has wide spectrum, but uses bands with poor penetration. 1900 is their CDMA band for 1xRTT and EvDO, as well as some LTE. The spectrum up at 2300 afforded by clearwire is used by WiMax and is said to be planned for LTE use. 2300 has been known for awful penetration, but Sprint could use their vast spectrum there to help offload the spectrum starved 1900 MHz LTE, currently only running on 5 MHz channels(AT&T and VZ use 10 MHz channels)if they play it right.

Bottom line: If you have building penetration issues, I doubt Boost Mobile CDMA will work out for you. I say pick the carrier with low frequencies and a tower near you(prolly AT&T or VZ). Make sure the phone supports it, as not all AT&T or VZ phones support 700 yet(mine does). Some AT&T phones a few years old fail to support 850 on 3G though support it in 1900, so stay with recent phones(less than 2 or 3 years old to be safe). Most phones of theirs support EDGE on 850, even the old ones mentioned, but AT&T has been refarming 850 and pushing EDGE to 1900. So again, avoid 2G phones and some older 3G phones.

Btw you're in an Android forum. Have you considered using Google Voice and VoIP? A few clients work well. I personally use GrooveIP, though I had CSipSimple working well too. Might solve your house coverage issues for staying with Boost. GrooveIP is $5 one time, very reliable, and sounds superb. A SIP line will work too. I have my phone setup to dial with GrooveIP when on Wifi and use Voicemail dialer to dial using GV over cell(even with no data connection). I use AutoAir to pull into airplane mode on wifi and Llama to automate my wifi and other things(with exception rule for being currently on cell call). This avoids double rings and immediately uses my cell forwarding settings and my GV settings to push people who call the real cell number to VoIP though everyone now calls my GV number as I always call from it. Then use the GV app for texting both over wifi and 4G. Just a hint as I would hate to see you waste those Boost Mobile minutes. All carriers have bad coverage inside my house, so my phones would be screwed without it most the time. Besides, AT&T covers this county well. This fills in the gap at home and keeps me happy with my cell.

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Excellent information about the frequencies used by these carriers--thank you!

iDEN was great (and still is). I have 3-4 bars at the house. I also have an AT&T LG 390 phone, but it probably doesn't do the 850 band, because it has no service inside the house. Works great on the front porch with 4-5 bar signal though.

The LG Venice that my wife bought me for Xmas has no signal in the house. The network identity menu shows a signal strength of -128dBu in the house.. outside it's in the -86 range. Just 900' up the road, standing in the driveway of the cell tower, I get 6 bars.

I've tried to set up Google Voice to use my cell number, but the confirmation call never rings the phone and goes straight to voice mail. If I call the phone from a regular phone, it DOES ring, so something's off kilter with Google Voice's system, so I can't confirm the number and set up an account. But I was thinking along the same lines of using my wi-fi to place calls from home. This new phone is hearing aid compatible, so I can use my hearing aids like Bluetooth devices and be hands free. Something my i450 flip phone can't do. Have to use the wired headset, which gets in the way all the time.

I'm resigned to the lack of signal problem, so I've been looking into a Wilson cell booster system. I'm considering the 801247 Signal Booster from Wilson Electronics, which seems to get good marks from users of the system. This will solve my building penetration problem. But to solve the 1650% increase in monthly bill is another problem entirely. I cannot afford their $55/monthly bills. My present plan with them is costing me $3.33/month and 10 cents/min.