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wasvznowftr

join:2010-07-13
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reply to ITALIAN926

Re: [FiOS] Frontier FiOS customers falling further and further b

said by ITALIAN926:

and btw, if Frontier does adopt GPON or better widespread, not all ONT's get replaced, that would not be economical at all. They would install them on new and upgrading customers.

No. You misunderstood my original post.

All BPON customers will be force migrated to GPON beginning sometime this year.


ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:2
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That doesnt make any sense at all. Why would they waste all that equipment? Frontier is already having enough trouble making money, so they will migrate people unnecessarily? Please explain why it would be necessary to move ALL existing customers to GPON.


wesm
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join:1999-07-29
Redmond, WA
reply to wasvznowftr
said by wasvznowftr:

No. You misunderstood my original post.

All BPON customers will be force migrated to GPON beginning sometime this year.

That would be the height of lunacy. The ONT that they installed for me ~3 months ago would be replaced? Even Verizon doesn't do this and they actively market services that require GPON. A BPON ONT will still work with GPON equipment.


ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:2
BPON ont's do not work on GPON CO equipment, the point is Frontier would not switch all customers off of BPON to GPON. Imagine having to revisit all customers, its absurd. People will get GPON as new customers or when they upgrade their speeds.

wasvznowftr

join:2010-07-13
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said by ITALIAN926:

BPON ont's do not work on GPON CO equipment, the point is Frontier would not switch all customers off of BPON to GPON. Imagine having to revisit all customers, its absurd. People will get GPON as new customers or when they upgrade their speeds.

Sorry, italian.

Didn't know you had so much information.

See, chawk and I both work for Frontier in the Everett, WA Northwest HQ where the vast majority of Frontier's FiOS customers are served (Washington and Oregon) and thought we were being helpful by dropping some inside info.

But clearly you have more information than we do. I'll keep an eye on this and other threads to learn more from the users here. That way the next time I get a company email or have some director tell my department in a meeting what the future plans are , I'll know they're just full of it.


ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
LMAO, you have a paypal account? You want to BET Frontier does not migrate everyone off BPON? If they did make such a ludicrous choice, you should start sending out your resume to other companies.

Replacing not only ALL customers ONT's but CO PON cards as well. Then you have situations where ONT's are located within someones home, and you have to inconvenience the customer as well. Absurd.

BPON can handle 50Mbps per sub, possibly more, yet Frontier will force migrate everyone to GPON when like 90% of their overall footprint is still copper?


wesm
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join:1999-07-29
Redmond, WA
reply to wasvznowftr
said by wasvznowftr:

See, chawk and I both work for Frontier in the Everett, WA Northwest HQ where the vast majority of Frontier's FiOS customers are served (Washington and Oregon) and thought we were being helpful by dropping some inside info.

But clearly you have more information than we do. I'll keep an eye on this and other threads to learn more from the users here. That way the next time I get a company email or have some director tell my department in a meeting what the future plans are , I'll know they're just full of it.

Italian sure does have a way with words.

Your managers may be giving you accurate information, and they probably are. Personally, I have no reason to suspect that your managers are lying to you. The question still remains: Why would Frontier swap all currently-deployed BPON equipment for GPON when they are both 1) still installing new BPON equipment in customer environments and 2) there would be no benefit to doing so based on the current service offering?

I sincerely, fervently hope that Frontier actually is going to convert the entire network to GPON. I really, really want you to be right. Why? We might get 300/65.

EdmondsFios

join:2010-09-02
Edmonds, WA
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reply to wasvznowftr
If Italian926 gets your sense of humor, this is going to become great reading material. I am also thrilled to hear that my new Tivo with Lifetime Service will no longer function with U verse and I will have to suck it up and go back to Comcast - for all my trliple play services.


ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
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·Verizon FiOS
reply to wesm
Thank you wes.

For you to GET GPON though, you dont have to convert the entire network ! lol Just add GPON to existing hubs ! Holy moly. A simple concept wasvznowftr managers cant comprehend. lol


wesm
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join:1999-07-29
Redmond, WA
reply to EdmondsFios
said by EdmondsFios:

If Italian926 gets your sense of humor, this is going to become great reading material. I am also thrilled to hear that my new Tivo with Lifetime Service will no longer function with U verse and I will have to suck it up and go back to Comcast - for all my trliple play services.

Same here. I'm quite familiar with the software U-Verse uses for their TV-over-IP setup. It can be awesome, but AT&T has compressed the video streams so much as to be unwatchable for fast-moving content like sports if there is more than one HD stream going at a residence. I must be the last person on the planet who likes linear video--especially how FiOS does it, whether Frontier or Verizon--its quality and relatively simplicity.


Hawkerbacker

@frontiernet.net
The main thing driving me crazy is you see all the new functionalities occurring with Verizon Fios such as the xbox 360 integration and ios app with Frontier you can't do any of those. It's frustrating knowing the fiber has such capabilities and it just sits there stagnant.


wesm
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join:1999-07-29
Redmond, WA
said by Hawkerbacker :

The main thing driving me crazy is you see all the new functionalities occurring with Verizon Fios such as the xbox 360 integration and ios app with Frontier you can't do any of those. It's frustrating knowing the fiber has such capabilities and it just sits there stagnant.

If they sent me an ad saying "hey, we've added HBO GO, enabled the Xbox streaming application, and might have even licensed the FiOS live TV app from Verizon, but it'll cost you a three year contract and $15 more per month," I'd sign up for HBO (which I don't currently get due to no HBO GO) and all they ask right now.