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Vinceruos_t

join:2012-05-04
reply to tuladrin

Re: Is wow dieing?

In my opinion it seems the only haters that contiunually hate on wow are people who have quit wow for w/e reasons, but they feel they must contiue to spread hate about it to try to get other people to quit. IDK why they do this, but it is what it is I guess. I will admit the dailies did seem a little over whelming at first, but wih the change to rep gains the dailies are fine now. It takes like 4 days of dailies to hit revered. Easily obtained. And all you need is honored to buy most of the valor gear which takes like 2 days of dailies. People cry over the dumbest shit. But like I said, mostly just former wow playes who like to spread hate bc they are depressed they cant find another game as good as Wow. MoP is an amazing expac and anyone who says otherwise is either 1. lying 2. in a shitty guild and cant find spots in raids/RBGs/Arenas.


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said by Vinceruos_t:

MoP is an amazing expac and anyone who says otherwise is either 1. lying 2. in a shitty guild and cant find spots in raids/RBGs/Arenas.

Because everybody is in for top raids/RBGs/Arenas, I am fine with my current progression since I am playing with great people but the way they implemented some things it makes it just harder for many of us, specially altoholics.
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Ghastlyone
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Have you noticed (maybe you haven't from grinding of daily quests) that Blizzard hasn't touted or bragged about MoP sales like they did with Wrath and Cataclysm?

But it must be going stronger then ever since my guild gets applications every week!!

Vinceruos_t

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All I hear is "blah blah blah GW2 sux wow is awesome I hate my life wish I could play wow again". But for reals. Wow, just as in life, is what you make of it. If you log on and spend your time by yourself killing 1 million bores then yea I could see it getting old pretty fast. But if you surround yourself with people that you like with common interests and spice things up then you can still have an incredible experiance. I like how you try to keep throwing up sales numbers and statisitcs to try to devalue WoW. I think there is 1 number you may have overlooked. WOW subs > then all other MMOs combined. Including GW2. But yea I guess wow is about to die forever and ever. ROFL


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Why do you need to bring GW2 to the discussion in the first place, feels like a weak way to deflect attention on the real issue.
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I AM
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I agree it is about who you play with. Minecraft with people I like over > anything.


Arthritis

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For the record, I’m a WoW quitter. I haven’t played for two months. I loved the game immensely and have nothing but good things to say. I also agree Mists of Pandaria is a great game as well. I wasn’t bored at it, or in a shitty guild or found something better. But they changed the “flavor” of it too much for me that I don’t enjoy it anymore. According to you, this makes me a hater.

They changed the taste of Coca Cola once too, and a lot of people who grew up drinking it gave it up completely…me included. They did it because they could and didn’t really think about me and others that practically grew up on the stuff, they just changed it. I didn’t like the change, so I left. So did a lot of others. A LOT.

Hitting them in the pocketbook, they recanted. When they changed it, I came back.

The same applies to Warcraft. If you don’t think they changed the “flavor” of end game raid progression and life at max level, I have to doubt you have any real prior experience about what you’re trying to talk about. And please try to remember some other players have a different perspective on life in WoW, our experiences might be vastly different from yours. For example, when I see nexxus crystals, arcane crystals and righteous orbs, I think 40 man Naxxramus, so maybe my palette might be a bit different than yours.

But please make no mistake, they changed the flavor completely, but the bean counters of the world learned from Coca Cola and forecast these kind of things. Yearlong subscriptions, free mount and free Diablo say hello.

But like it or not, people are leaving WoW at a good steady pace.. On large servers, it goes unnoticed. Small servers are just disappearing, and maybe that’s the plan. Guilds, usually with the best and most proficient players on the server in them, are transferring off these servers in droves and leaving small population servers at their own expense. Smart business if you ask me, instead of paying the expense yourself, get the player base to do it for you? Makes up for the quitters as well.

Like or not, they changed the flavor man, and some of us don’t like the taste anymore. And when it goes back, I’ll be back.

That doesn’t make me a hater by any definition, I’m just loyal to what I consider to be perfection in the first place.


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said by Vinceruos_t:

I like how you try to keep throwing up sales numbers and statisitcs to try to devalue WoW. I think there is 1 number you may have overlooked. WOW subs > then all other MMOs combined.

Lets see, supposedly WoW has 10 million people playing. But only manages ~2+ million copies of a brand new expansion in sales?

Hmmm, something doesn't seem right there.

But but but....my guild gets lots of applications every day!! So this game has more subscribers then all other MMOS combined!!

You keep believing all that hype Blizzard is feeding you.


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edit: deleted double post.


Snuffbox
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WoW will not die until something takes its place.

There is currently nothing remotely competitive with WoW.

Therefore, WoW isn't dying. Sorry to dissapoint.

Ghastly, weren't you on the STWOR bandwagon?


Ghastlyone
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said by Snuffbox:

WoW will not die until something takes its place.

There is currently nothing remotely competitive with WoW.

Therefore, WoW isn't dying. Sorry to dissapoint.

WoW will get down to 1 million subscribers someday, and you'll be saying the exact same thing, still.


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That's still 1 million more subscribers than all those Free 2 play games!!!

Don't deny the fact folks the game is losing numbers. It's ok. It is OK.


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said by Ghastlyone:

WoW will get down to 1 million subscribers someday, and you'll be saying the exact same thing, still.

Absolutely incorrect. You're the hypocrite bashing a game but continually posting on that game's forum.

I'm a realist that will happily move to the next game when it's superior. I knew it wouldn't be D3, I knew it wouldn't be SWTOR, however I have hope for "Titan" unfortunately it's virtually all speculation at this point.


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said by Snuffbox:

said by Ghastlyone:

WoW will get down to 1 million subscribers someday, and you'll be saying the exact same thing, still.

Absolutely incorrect. You're the hypocrite bashing a game but continually posting on that game's forum.

I post here regularly?

Wow, I didn't know so few posts would have that much influence.


Ghastlyone
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said by Snuffbox:

Ghastly, weren't you on the STWOR bandwagon?

There was a bandwagon? I must have missed it.


Snuffbox
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said by Ghastlyone:

I post here regularly?

Are we going to turn this into a childish debate about the definition of "regular" really?

You are here frequently, posting/commenting about WoW.


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said by Ghastlyone:

Have you noticed (maybe you haven't from grinding of daily quests) that Blizzard hasn't touted or bragged about MoP sales like they did with Wrath and Cataclysm?

But it must be going stronger then ever since my guild gets applications every week!!

I also noticed as to how quickly the reduced the price.
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Snuffbox
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said by Snakeoil:

I also noticed as to how quickly the reduced the price.

Nobody is going to buy 5+ expansions at $60 a piece + subscriptions to start playing a game and find out if they like it - all game developers do this.


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Not the MIGHTY BLIZZARD/ACTIVISION!


Snakeoil
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I haven't seen one drop the price as fast as MOP dropped.
It went from 60 bucks to 30 bucks in 2 months. Most normally wait 6 months before dropping price.


Snuffbox
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said by Snakeoil:

I haven't seen one drop the price as fast as MOP dropped.

Are you comparing subscription based games to subscription based games?

WoW's main revenue is subscriptions, (and maybe vanity pets, haha) - you can't compare this to a game that needs to make ALL of their income off game sales because they don't charge a subscription. Hopefully this makes sense.


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Snuff...Don't lie. You secretly buy and pull out those vanity pets when you're all alone.


Ghastlyone
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said by Snakeoil:

said by Ghastlyone:

Have you noticed (maybe you haven't from grinding of daily quests) that Blizzard hasn't touted or bragged about MoP sales like they did with Wrath and Cataclysm?

But it must be going stronger then ever since my guild gets applications every week!!

I also noticed as to how quickly the reduced the price.

They ran some sales on it recently, but that was more likely due to the holidays and shopping season since a lot of games were on sale.


Snuffbox
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Haha, not yet.

I didn't buy Limited Edition, and I didn't sign up for the annual pass like so many (Ghastlyone).

I will leave WoW happily as soon as there's a better replacement. Competition is good, makes WoW work harder, makes other game developers have to branch off from copying everything WoW does and actually attempt to make a unique quality product.


I AM
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You mean You don't pull out that little gryphon and watch him do flips? It's soooooo cuuutteeee..


Snuffbox
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said by I AM:

You mean You don't pull out that little gryphon and watch him do flips? It's soooooo cuuutteeee..

He does flips? WTF, brb.


TheThing

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said by I AM:

Snuff...Don't lie. You secretly buy and pull out those vanity pets when you're all alone.

there is an abandoned cottage near goldshire along the river... with a fireplace

the WoW wife and I used to whisper sweet nothings to each other there...

WoW wife and IRL Wife... gotta keep em separated... new thread naow!

biomedical engineer, very cool chick


Ghastlyone
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said by Snuffbox:

I didn't buy Limited Edition, and I didn't sign up for the annual pass like so many (Ghastlyone).

LOL, what the fuck? I didn't sign up for an annual pass.

Blizzard didn't rope me in on that scheme.


Snuffbox
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said by Ghastlyone:

LOL, what the fuck? I didn't sign up for an annual pass.

Blizzard didn't rope me in on that scheme.

Haha, don't take that away from me.


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It did to me, I though D3 was going to be better than the beta.

/sigh