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loosedobbs

join:2006-06-13
Toronto

Kelowna, B.C., dubious winner as drunk-driving capital of Ca

What the ??? Is it everyone in that small town drinks?
Or Cops have nothing else to do and catch these drunks with massive R.I.D.E programs? And where is the heck Toronto in that list? And Ottawa or Montreal? Do they lump these weed smokers as drunks?

»www.thestar.com/news/canada/arti···f-canada

Road trip-ups

The top 10 cities with the most impaired-driving offences were, in order:

Kelowna
St. John’s, N.L.
Regina.
Abbotsford-Mission.
Moncton.
Victoria.
Edmonton.
Trois-Rivieres, Que.
Vancouver.
Halifax.


FaxCap

join:2002-05-25
Surrey, BC
I think if remove the "summer visitors" from the list Kelowna's rating
would drop through the floor.

FaxCap


vue666
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Halifax, NS
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Faxcap sure you & ZZZZZZZ don't live in Kelowna?

And st John's is second...no surprise there... LOL

zod5000

join:2003-10-21
Victoria, BC
reply to loosedobbs
I would of expected a few bc cities in there as the limit is only .05?


FaxCap

join:2002-05-25
Surrey, BC
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reply to vue666
said by vue666:

Faxcap sure you & ZZZZZZZ don't live in Kelowna?

ZZZZZZZ does....I don't....I'm in White Rock, BC suburb of Vancouver.

FaxCap


BonezX
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Canada
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reply to vue666
said by vue666:

Faxcap sure you & ZZZZZZZ don't live in Kelowna?

And st John's is second...no surprise there... LOL

i'm just wondering how we got on the list, i'm dead sure that the idiot drivers in Ontario HAVE to be drunk, and that was just in Windsor.


capdjq
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Vancouver
reply to loosedobbs
People see in the news the misery caused to the families of the persons maimed and killed by drunk drivers, every day, yet they never learn. The Courts always finds excuses for them.
I was in my Municipal court, the other day, when a man, with 10 previous DUIs received a one months suspension for his eleventh. Big deal. He smiled as he left the Court.


Thingamajig
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join:2004-11-03
B.C.
reply to loosedobbs
In no way defending the drunk drivers but how much is due to enforcement?
How many road blocks are run in other provinces?
Having four in the top ten from BC yet two other provinces have higher offences for drunk drivers skews ones perspective.
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Bob Anderson

join:2001-05-05
Ottawa, ON
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reply to loosedobbs
The last time I drove under the influence was 1979. It was about 3 AM and as I drove through an intersection in downtown Ottawa I realized that I didn't know what the colour of the light was. I vowed then and there to never drive under the influence again and to become a better driver. Lucky for me there were no other cars at that intersection. Sometimes when I meet friends for lunch at a place I have to drive to I limit myself to one mug of beer over the lunch period of about 90 minutes. But I don't even do that anymore. I and all my friends only walk to local bars and restaurants or drink at someones local house. Because of the rip off prices of booze in bars and restaurants hardly anyone I know will buy booze in these places anymore. Buying your own and drinking at home or a friends place is about one quarter of the cost of buying booze in a bar.

-Bob


vue666
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"I love driving late at night, it sobers me up" - Rodney Dangerfield...

"My doctor told me to watch my drinking. Now I drink in front of a mirror." -Rodney Dangerfield

"My dad was the town drunk. Usually that's not so bad, but New York City? " - Henny Youngman


vue666
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reply to Bob Anderson
"I love driving late at night, it sobers me up" - Rodney Dangerfield...

"My doctor told me to watch my drinking. Now I drink in front of a mirror." -Rodney Dangerfield

"My dad was the town drunk. Usually that's not so bad, but New York City? " - Henny Youngman

"Everyone must believe in something. I believe I'll have another drink." - W. C. Fields


Gone
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Fort Erie, ON
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reply to FaxCap
said by FaxCap:

I think if remove the "summer visitors" from the list Kelowna's rating
would drop through the floor.

We have millions of thousands of summer visitors here, tens of thousands of them are "permanent" summer residents who own property here from the wild-west-drunk-driving-is-a-speeding-ticket USA, yet drunk driving isn't very much of an issue compared to other areas of Canada.


FaxCap

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Surrey, BC
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reply to loosedobbs
Remember, Gone, BC is the province that made headlines across
Canada when they passed the toughest DUI laws in the country.
BC runs a TON of roadblocks year round. I truly believe we catch
more because we check more and those numbers are a result.

FaxCap


Mike2009

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Ottawa, ON
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reply to FaxCap
said by FaxCap:

I think if remove the "summer visitors" from the list Kelowna's rating
would drop through the floor.

FaxCap

Nice try blaming the visitors for the problem.


Gone
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reply to FaxCap
said by FaxCap:

Remember, Gone, BC is the province that made headlines across
Canada when they passed the toughest DUI laws in the country.
BC runs a TON of roadblocks year round. I truly believe we catch
more because we check more and those numbers are a result.

Impaired driving is a federal criminal charge, though. BC's 0.03 is a regulatory offence. It is not the same as impaired driving.

The part about enforcement kind of makes sense though. If you're trying to screw people over with 0.03, you're bound to find more people who blow over 0.08.


Gone
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reply to Mike2009
said by Mike2009:

Nice try blaming the visitors for the problem.

Everything bad that ever happens in BC is always the fault of "visitors." You should know this by now


ZZZZZZZ
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PARADISE
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reply to Mike2009
It is a tourist problem and if any of you had visited you'd know that.

This is like a college town in the summer and even at the resorts in the winter.............

I wasn't surprised at the results,cause I drive here everyday.

Keep the fucking Albertan cowboys home and we'll be better off.
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vue666
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Halifax, NS
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Please park the car ZZZZZZZ you're drunk again... LOL...

Just joking mate...

We got more then our share of drunks in NS so I can't really toss stones....


Gone
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reply to ZZZZZZZ
said by ZZZZZZZ:

It is a tourist problem and if any of you had visited you'd know that.

Haha, that excuse doesn't fly when you're attempting to argue this with someone who lives in the busiest and most-visited tourist region in the country that isn't even a blip as far as impaired driving charges goes.

A more reasonable explanation is that whatever police service serves Kelowna is bloody gung-ho about RIDE checks and, as a result, simply catches more people.


Kardinal
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reply to loosedobbs
I'm pleased to see that Ottawa is a the bottom of the chart, according to this cbc.ca article on the Statscan numbers. I wonder if it has to do with now having TWO Operation Red Nose teams in operation in December (one for each side of the river) and the growing popularity of both services like Responsible Choice (commercial service like ORN) and towing companies that will take your car home for you for slightly more than a cab fare.
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peterboro
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Peterborough, ON
said by Kardinal:

I'm pleased to see that Ottawa is a the bottom of the chart, according to this cbc.ca article on the Statscan numbers. I wonder if it has to do with now having TWO Operation Red Nose teams in operation in December (one for each side of the river) and the growing popularity of both services like Responsible Choice (commercial service like ORN) and towing companies that will take your car home for you for slightly more than a cab fare.

Responsible Choice is probably the predominant factor. There are a percentage of people who will drive regardless of the penalty or whether there is a ride check simply because they need their vehicle in the morning.

Here in the Peterborough city and county the OPP will pull people over indiscriminately if you are out driving in the evening or night whether you are displaying any signs of impairment or not.

There is a comparable company to Responsible Choice here that has driven thousands of people home and no doubt kept our numbers here low as well.


Gone
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said by peterboro:

There are a percentage of people who will drive regardless of the penalty or whether there is a ride check simply because they need their vehicle in the morning.

There are services here that will not only drive you home, but drive your car home so you have it in the morning, too.


Kardinal
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said by Gone:

said by peterboro:

There are a percentage of people who will drive regardless of the penalty or whether there is a ride check simply because they need their vehicle in the morning.

There are services here that will not only drive you home, but drive your car home so you have it in the morning, too.

That's what ORN, Responsible Choice and towing companies are doing: take driver and car home. The latter two are 'for profit', but the cost is less than two taxi fares (ie/ home and back to get the car the next day).
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peterboro
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reply to Gone
said by Gone:

said by peterboro:

There are a percentage of people who will drive regardless of the penalty or whether there is a ride check simply because they need their vehicle in the morning.

There are services here that will not only drive you home, but drive your car home so you have it in the morning, too.

Which is what we are discussing by way of Responsible Choice and the comparable company in Peterborough.


Gone
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said by peterboro:

Which is what we are discussing by way of Responsible Choice and the comparable company in Peterborough.

You alluded to people not using these services because they needed their car, which wouldn't happen if they also transported your car for you.

peterboro
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said by Gone:

said by peterboro:

Which is what we are discussing by way of Responsible Choice and the comparable company in Peterborough.

You alluded to people not using these services because they needed their car, which wouldn't happen if they also transported your car for you.

No, I stated.

"Responsible Choice is probably the predominant factor. There are a percentage of people who will drive regardless of the penalty or whether there is a ride check simply because they need their vehicle in the morning."


Gone
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said by peterboro:

"Responsible Choice is probably the predominant factor. There are a percentage of people who will drive regardless of the penalty or whether there is a ride check simply because they need their vehicle in the morning."

I read what you said, there's no need to repeat. The groups that I were referring to take you and your car home the same night. In other words, you have your car in the morning.

peterboro
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said by Gone:

said by peterboro:

"Responsible Choice is probably the predominant factor. There are a percentage of people who will drive regardless of the penalty or whether there is a ride check simply because they need their vehicle in the morning."

I read what you said, there's no need to repeat. The groups that I were referring to take you and your car home the same night. In other words, you have your car in the morning.

It seems I have to as Responsible Choice and the comparable company in Peterborough I was referring to take you and your car home the same night.


vue666
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reply to Kardinal
said by Kardinal:

I'm pleased to see that Ottawa is a the bottom of the chart, according to this cbc.ca article on the Statscan numbers.

Yeah but that's only because you were out of time for a month and when you were home you rode the bike.... LOL...

Just joking with ya'...


Gone
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reply to peterboro
So then why would needing their car in the morning be an issue?

I was going to comment about educating people on the availability of these services if they didn't know they exist, but I figured that much was a given. Guess not.