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Bob4
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join:2012-07-22
New Jersey
reply to nunya

Re: Brand names

You can thank Wal-Mart.

telco_mtl

join:2012-01-06
I know for hand tools im not a huge fan of stanley anymore but Chanell lock still seems great. Old appliance names like RCA, Sunbeam, GE, Moffat, Litton, Inglis, etc are all made by others under licence these days, so brands dont mean anything anymore in consumer grade product...

its sad


pike
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reply to Bob4
said by Bob4:

You can thank Wal-Mart.

said by stevek1949:

I am not sure that we didn't contribute to the downfall of quality to ourselves. Just a quick perusal of the forums on DSLR will show any number of people asking for cheapest this, cheaper that, including labor on any project.

I hate Wal Mart as much as the next guy, and avoid it like the plague, but I concur with stevek1949 See Profile here. Wal Mart is simply the facilitator of people's demand for cheap shit.

The manufacturers, including the ones nunya See Profile listed, faced a decision: lower their prices (and subsequently their quality) in order to get their products in Wal Mart and Home Depot, or close shop.

If people would have continued demanding high quality stuff, and most importantly continued to pay for it, it would still be around.


dennismurphy
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reply to Bob4
said by Bob4:

You can thank Wal-Mart.

Bingo!

Great article, although a few years old ...

»www.fastcompany.com/54763/man-wh···wal-mart


Steve
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reply to Bob4
said by Bob4:

You can thank Wal-Mart.

No: you are confusing an effect with the vehicle by which an effect makes itself known. It's your fellow man that you have to thank for this, as he has made it perfectly clear he that he shops on price alone.

A few of us on the planet, including some here, do value spending more for better quality, but our tastes are so much in the minority that it's simply not profitable to cater to them.

This totally blows :-(

Steve
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DannyZ
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reply to telco_mtl
Yes, Channellock is still high quality, made in Meadville Pennsylvania. It is owned and run by the fifth generation of the family of the person who started the enterprise. They still treat their employees with a personal touch.
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54067323

join:2012-09-25
Tuscaloosa, AL
reply to Steve
said by Steve:

No: you are confusing an effect with the vehicle by which an effect makes itself known. It's your fellow man that you have to thank for this, as he has made it perfectly clear he that he shops on price alone.

This totally blows :-(

Steve

Yup and the term acceptable failure rate becomes part of the design.

telco_mtl

join:2012-01-06
reply to DannyZ
said by DannyZ:

Yes, Channellock is still high quality, made in Meadville Pennsylvania. It is owned and run by the fifth generation of the family of the person who started the enterprise. They still treat their employees with a personal touch.

i have a set of lineman pliers that ive abused from them... bought em in 1999 still good as new

Bob4
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reply to pike
Chicken or egg...

Bob4
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reply to Steve
said by Steve:

said by Bob4:

You can thank Wal-Mart.

No: you are confusing an effect with the vehicle by which an effect makes itself known. It's your fellow man that you have to thank for this, as he has made it perfectly clear he that he shops on price alone.

Which is why companies like BMW are out of business because people refuse to pay that much money for a car.


Steve
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said by Bob4:

Which is why companies like BMW are out of business because people refuse to pay that much money for a car.

Nobody could possibly believe that every market operates exactly like — or even a little bit like — every other market.

Bob4
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Until Wal-Mart starts selling cars.

It's the availability of crap for cheap prices that causes people to buy the cheap crap.


Steve
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said by Bob4:

It's the availability of crap for cheap prices that causes people to buy the cheap crap.

The technical term for this is "filling a market need", and bemoaning Wal-Mart is like blaming your house for the appetite of the termites.

Bob4
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I disagree.


CylonRed
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reply to Bob4
Really - they are out of business?????? Trust me - they are not anywhere NEAR out of business.


Steve
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said by CylonRed:

Really - they are out of business?????? Trust me - they are not anywhere NEAR out of business.

He was attempting to demonstrate a counter-example to my claim by way of sarcasm.