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nick11

join:2005-07-17
Chicago, IL
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reply to Doctor Olds

Re: Can't get router to work

said by Doctor Olds:

What is the exact Model of your Router?

hello doc,

router is a linksys befrsr41

ha, that was the exact url I told moribundman to follow!

I'm curious about something. is the linksys befsr41 router any different to setup than an apple airport router? I know the befsr41 is wired and the airport is wireless. I don't mean that. I mean the "bridged mode" thing. if I understand correctly, when you follow the instructions at the above link, the 2210 modem will be put in "bridged mode" and the befsr41 router will handle the pppoe.

a while ago you and wayjac showed moribundman and me how to connect a 2210 modem to a mac via an airport router:
»[General] PPPoE or DHCP with Earthlink (Mac OS X 10.4)?
it seemed that in that case the 2210 modem handles the pppoe.

are the two setups different or are am I overlooking something?

Thanks


wayjac
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The instructions at the link you posted are for a 2210-02-1006
The gui of the 2210-02-1006 and 2210-02-1002 look different

said by nick11:

are the two setups different or are am I overlooking something?

Yes the two setups are different
One setup has the modem bridged with a router doing the pppoe
The other setup has the modem doing the pppoe

nick11

join:2005-07-17
Chicago, IL
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said by wayjac:

Yes the two setups are different
One setup has the modem bridged with a router doing the pppoe
The other setup has the modem doing the pppoe

I'm curious, what is that dictates who will do the pppoe? I once had a befsr41 and I remember that, unlike the befsr41 setup in this case, it was the dsl modem that handled the pppoe.


Doctor Olds
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join:2001-04-19
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reply to nick11
said by nick11:

router is a linksys befrsr41

You should set the Modem to Bridge Mode/Bridged Ethernet Mode and then setup PPPoE in your Linksys befrsr41.

Otherwise you are cascading Routers and performing NAT multiple times (Double-NAT in your case) which isn't the optimal setup.
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wayjac
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reply to nick11
You will decide which device will do the pppoe......

The dsl modem can be configured to do the pppoe or the dsl modem can be configured for bridge mode, when the modem is bridged a router or computer must do the pppoe

nick11

join:2005-07-17
Chicago, IL
kudos:1
reply to Doctor Olds
said by Doctor Olds:

You should set the Modem to Bridge Mode/Bridged Ethernet Mode and then setup PPPoE in your Linksys befrsr41. Otherwise you are cascading Routers and performing NAT multiple times (Double-NAT in your case) which isn't the optimal setup.

the cascading and double NAT will happen because the 2200 modem is also a router doc?

and since the 2200 modem is a router too, will it do NAT if you connect the 2200 to the computer alone without a router, thus giving you the security benefits of NAT?

nick11

join:2005-07-17
Chicago, IL
kudos:1
reply to wayjac
said by wayjac:

You will decide which device will do the pppoe...... The dsl modem can be configured to do the pppoe or the dsl modem can be configured for bridge mode, when the modem is bridged a router or computer must do the pppoe

are there any benefits to doing the pppoe on the modem or the router?

btw, do you know if the SpeedStream 4100 modem is a router too?


wayjac
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said by nick11:

are there any benefits to doing the pppoe on the modem or the router?

I don't think it matterrs which device does the pppoe

said by nick11:

do you know if the SpeedStream 4100 modem is a router too?

Yes the SS4100 is a router for one device only