 antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP
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| Google Declares War on the Password »www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/20···assword/
"... Want an easier way to log into your Gmail account? How about a quick tap on your computer with the ring on your finger?
This may be closer than you think. Google’s security team outlines this sort of ring-finger authentication in a new research paper, set to be published late this month in the engineering journal IEEE Security & Privacy Magazine. In it, Google Vice President of Security Eric Grosse and Engineer Mayank Upadhyay outline all sorts of ways they think people could wind up logging into websites in the future — and it’s about time..."
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| The "problem" being primarily one of companies not protecting passwords and accounts of customers (from hackers) every bit as much as users not picking good, long passwords that are hard to crack (because they're long--oh, you mean the system only allows 12 characters max? [oops]) and easy to remember. (Sure hope no one steals my ring... or my ring finger... with the ring still on it...  ) |
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The biggest single problem with a log on/password was when online companies shifted to requiring or using your Email address as a log on. Once a big company is compromised the thieves can then just try that email/password combination at all the other major sites. I, like many other people I know use the same password and a different log on depending on what site we are using. I have a different user name for gaming and a different user name for banking and yet another different user name for online shopping. That extra layer of protection of being able to use a different user name at different sites was nullified when companies moved to using/requiring email addresses as a log on.
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Strange. I read about this elsewhere and came away with a different aspect of it. The biggest was Google is not declaring war on the password, just looking at other methods.
I don't think the password is going away anytime soon.
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said by antdude:"... Want an easier way to log into your Gmail account? How about a quick tap on your computer with the ring on your finger?
This may be closer than you think. Google’s security team outlines this sort of ring-finger authentication ..."
How lazy are people these days?
And what makes Google think I wear rings? or would wear their ring instead of mine? Rings can be a hazard in some occupations ...
Google's security team needs to get out in the real world more.  |
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chrisretusnRetiredPremium
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kudos:1 | LOL. You made my day. |
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antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP
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kudos:4 | Preeeeeeeeeeeeecious! |
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What's old becomes new again...
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvKlqMjfk1Y
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davePremium,MVM
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said by goalieskates:And what makes Google think I wear rings? You didn't read the article, did you? The actual article is about using hardware tokens for authentication, and just used 'a figure ring' as an example of how one might conveniently carry such a thing - more conveniently than, I suppose, today's key-ring-sized RSA tokens. |
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 SnakeoilIgnore Button. The coward's feature.Premium
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said by antdude:http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/01/google-password/
"... Want an easier way to log into your Gmail account? How about a quick tap on your computer with the ring on your finger?
This may be closer than you think. Google’s security team outlines this sort of ring-finger authentication in a new research paper, set to be published late this month in the engineering journal IEEE Security & Privacy Magazine. In it, Google Vice President of Security Eric Grosse and Engineer Mayank Upadhyay outline all sorts of ways they think people could wind up logging into websites in the future — and it’s about time..."
Interesting. I was watching once upon a time last night. They needed to access a cell phone, but didn't have a pass word. So they used the guy's key fob and put it near the phone to unlock it.
The only problem I have with such a method, is what happens if you leave it on the shelf by the sink, or it falls off the key ring, etc?
You'd think a thumb print, retina scan would be the way to go, as you can't leave them behind.
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kudos:1 | said by Snakeoil:You'd think a thumb print, retina scan would be the way to go, as you can't leave them behind.
Next to come in the world of malware, after keyloggers: fingerprint loggers and retina image loggers. |
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| Couldn't a fob device be copied as well?
There really is no such thing as secure when you are surfing the web/have your computer connected to a network.
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said by Snakeoil:You'd think a thumb print, retina scan would be the way to go, as you can't leave them behind.
Actually, you leave thumb prints behind you every time you touch anything with your thumb (and anyone with access to the "protected" device has access to your thumb print too). I recently demonstrated that principle to someone who was in love with the finger print scanner on their notebook.
I won't go into the gory details of how a retina scanner can be compromized. 
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said by Snakeoil:You'd think a thumb print, retina scan would be the way to go, as you can't leave them behind.
Thumb prints can be copied.
As far as retina scans go, call me suspicious, but I'm not about to allow some Dell Lowest-Bidder Laser Eyeballomatic to point at mine. |
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said by Snakeoil:Couldn't a fob device be copied as well?
Not if it's properly constructed to be tamper resistant. |
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Why to stop with a ring on your finger? As some have already mentioned here, you can loose it or forget to wear, when you need it. Why not to put it under the skin as an RFID tag. Then all of those problems are gone... (for a guy, who thinks the half of the glass is full in this case). Or may be that's the plan behind this Google project?
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| said by OZO:Why not to put it under the skin as an RFID tag. Then all of those problems are gone... (for a guy, who thinks the half of the glass is full in this case). Or may be that's the plan behind this Google project?
I think this day is soon approaching where everything will require an RFID reading. Just look at this Texas school district.
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OZOPremium
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kudos:2 | I think, there are many control-freaks, who would be happy to see that happens 
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said by Lagz:said by OZO:Why not to put it under the skin as an RFID tag. Then all of those problems are gone... (for a guy, who thinks the half of the glass is full in this case). Or may be that's the plan behind this Google project?
I think this day is soon approaching where everything will require an RFID reading. Just look at this Texas school district. I hope to be long gone by then. The idea of all things read by chips makes me ill.
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