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whamel
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Zoom 5341J vs Motorola SBG6580

Hey, (GRAPHIC ABOVE EXPLAINED BELOW)
I purchased both the Zoom 5341J vs Motorola SBG6580. They both run 8 bonded downstream channels. I know the Motorola has all the fancy WiFi built in, but I don't need that. To be honest all I need to know is whether the Zoom or the Motorola is more reliable in all aspects (latency, packet loss, signal level, power output, SNR, spped, etc)
If anyone has any advice, please, give your 2 cents.
Currently I run 2 internet connections (30/5Mbps) with a UBEE DDM-3513 and it has only 4 downstream channels, as well as my Arris TG862G which is the same. The graphic above is of mt Arris TG862G.

Thanks!
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mb

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I'm sure there will be some anecdotal responses, but for all practical purposes, there is no difference between the two.



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I don't know much about the SB6580, but I had a Zoom 5341J for a short time and now have a Motorola SB 6141. For the short time I had the 5341J I think it was about the same as the 6141, signals, speed wise.
They are both 8 down and 4 up.
The zoom crapped out on me in about a week so got the SB6141 and couldn't be happier with it. Rock solid and not a burp.
I also noticed the Zoom ran hot where the 6141 is just warm to the touch.



whamel
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Any other opinions/thoughts?



EG
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N.M. Mods please remove.



whamel
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why remove?



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To me, they are completely different critters for different usage. Use the right tool for the job! The SBG6580 is a wireless gateway. Although I for one have little or no use for a combo unit like that, for those who are not willing to set up a separate modem-attached to stand alone router, ok...but in the Comcast world, keep in mind that Comcast thus decides the router portion's capabilities, as they push the firmware.

Much smarter to run a separate modem and router.

Yes, you can disable the Motorola's radio, but kind of a clunky solution.

The Zoom 5341J is perhaps the most popular cable modem for Comcast that is currently up to date. If you don't need an emta modem, I don't see much need to go any further.
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whamel
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said by PeteC2:

The Zoom 5341J is perhaps the most popular cable modem for Comcast that is currently up to date. If you don't need an emta modem, I don't see much need to go any further.

Thanl you, you answered my question in a clear and cncise way before jacka$$ above got the mods to remove my topic.
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I think he meant remove his post .



EG
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said by Darknessfall:

I think he meant remove his post .

Exactly. Thank you.

cooperaaaron

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I would think that the Motorola modems are up to date too, right ?



EG
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said by mb:

I'm sure there will be some anecdotal responses, but for all practical purposes, there is no difference between the two.

For the sake of clarity here, the 5341J is a straight plain vanilla cable modem, the 6580 is a combination modem / wireless router gateway device.


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said by whamel:

Thanl you, you answered my question in a clear and cncise way before jacka$$ above got the mods to remove my topic.
Thanks!

You are jumping to conclusions. Nothing of yours has yet been removed nor was it requested. I asked the mods to removed a comment of mine that I changed my mind about... I don't appreciate the name calling either. Have a nice day sir !


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said by EG See Profile
You are jumping to conclusions. Nothing of yours has yet been removed nor was it requested. I asked the mods to removed a comment of mine that I changed my mind about... I don't appreciate the name calling either. Have a nice day sir !
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I apologize, I didn't get what your post meant...i sincerely apologize!
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said by whamel:

I apologize, I didn't get what your post meant...i sincerely apologize!

No worries, sorry for the confusion.

andyross
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The main issue is that the Motorola series seem to have issues with the bonded upstream. In 3-up bonding, they often seem to drop or not even initialize properly, with one of the channels going into a 'T4 Timeout' mode for no obvious reason.


nmbdude

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I was having a lot of problems with T4 Timeouts on my SB6120. I upgraded to a Zoom 5341J and while I still have timeouts, they are far less frequent. The signal in my area is very marginal, but Comcast doesn't seem to be interested in doing anything to improve the signal. They have provided an amp (free of charge) which helps downstreams, but the upstream is not amplified.

Even if I connect the cablemodem directly to the line from comcast without any splitters/amps, it's still weak, so I have to just make do with what I have, and the 5341J seems to have helped a lot with my weak signals.



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said by nmbdude:

and the 5341J seems to have helped a lot with my weak signals.

FWIW, I have found it to be very tolerant / forgiving of less than stellar signal stats / connection quality ! More so than any Moto that I have ever owned, and I have had many different models going back as far as the SB3100.


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I had provisioned a Motorola SURFboard SB6120 before the UBEE DDM- and I couldn't get the damn Motorola to stay online. Thats where I sold the Motorola on eBay and bout a NEW UBEE-DDM3513 and I picked this modem b/c when I first moved down to Hattiesburg, MS I lived in a fully furnished apartment. Including the internet connection. I got solid signals and in those 3 months not one Sync issue. So I switched.
Reason I asked the question is b/c I am swapping my VoIP gateway and it's internet connection for a modem with 8 bonded downstream and 4 upstream channels. I plan on getting the Extreme 50/15 and using the new modem (the Zoom) and keeping my Performance w/ PowerBoost on the UBEE. TV is digital starter w/ HD DVR.
So there is my explanation...
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EG
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said by whamel:

I plan on getting the Extreme 50/15 and using the new modem (the Zoom) and keeping my Performance w/ PowerBoost on the UBEE. TV is digital starter w/ HD DVR.
So there is my explanation...

If you are saying that you are going to use two modems on the same account / address then be prepared to pay for two subscriptions (double what you are paying for internet now) ! That is if your particular local system even allows this.


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said by EG See Profile
If you are saying that you are going to use two modems on the same account / address then be prepared to pay for two subscriptions (double what you are paying for internet now) ! That is if your particular local system even allows this.


My system does allow this, I have two internet connections as we speak...go to my profile:
»/profile/u/628497
and see my setup, described there.
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EG
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O/k so are you paying double ?



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See the last line of his setup description.



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said by graysonf:

See the last line of his setup description.

NO comment regarding what I pay for or don't. $159 for triple play
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said by whamel:

NO comment regarding what I pay for or don't. $159 for triple play

Was just for curiosity's sake. Not accusing you of anything...


whamel
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said by EG:

Was just for curiosity's sake. Not accusing you of anything...

No not how I was interpreting it, Comcast made a mistake and forgot to do something....regarding MAC addresses...so I get a good deal.
And yes, you can run two cable modems on one drop, but the entire length is RG6Q (Quad Shielded) so I do get good signal levels. Nevermind the graphic at the top, I was splitting a modem two times that's why ,my Upstream Power is so high...
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EG
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said by whamel:

No not how I was interpreting it, Comcast made a mistake and forgot to do something....regarding MAC addresses...so I get a good deal.
And yes, you can run two cable modems on one drop, but the entire length is RG6Q (Quad Shielded) so I do get good signal levels.

Be aware that their system auditing (automated or otherwise) will likely catch up to this one day.


whamel
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I don't plan on living in this Apt Past April 1st, then I move and re-signup under a new promo anyway...
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whamel
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Here, I am monitoring both my connections, see here »/testhistory?view=86
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