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Re: Hypocrites

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Perhaps if the MAFIAA weren't pirating, their sales would improve.

Why do you and the story author ASSUME the **ia's were pirating?

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Oh, it's no assumption. They were CAUGHT pirating. And it wasn't casual piracy but RAMPANT piracy. Meanwhile the MAFIAA sues people for what their employees are doing EVERY DAY. Hypocrisy of the highest and most disgusting order.

»torrentfreak.com/hollywo ··· -121225/

»torrentfreak.com/exposed ··· -121226/

And the MAFIAA doesn't just pirate movies and TV shows...they were caught stealing software as well.

»torrentfreak.com/mpaa-st ··· license/

Now if the MAFIAA wants to apply 6 strikes to business, let them apply it to themselves first. Their employees were caught pirating from other studios and record labels on an epic scale.

Time to traffic shape them into the ground and then disconnect their Internet connectivity for piracy. Once the MAFIAA is off the Internetz, turn to the DOJ and other law enforcement agencies that are also FULL of pirates. When their Internetz is cut off, THEN we can start looking at mom and pop cafe owner.

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The "Proof" in the stories you quoted appears to IP addresses supposedly linked to the studios, something you have repeated said CANNOT be linked to any given offender, so if it's not proof for you, it's not proof for them either.
even if we accept the IP as one linked to the studio, YOU have no way of knowing if the individual there was given written permission(a license ) to download for tracking purposes.
Even if it was a rogue employee, specific regulations prohibit an employer from publicly disclosing how or why an employee was disciplined or terminated for violating company regulations and/or federal, state or local laws.
so IF it was a violation, it MAY have been dealt with in even a more punitive manner or settlement then what they attempt to do to members of the public they caught.
It's not a matter of studio employees first, it treat all equally.

If YOU have ABSOLUTE proof of violations in the US, why haven't YOU taken them to the DOJ or state AG yourself?

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Supposedly linked? The IPs belong to the MAFIAA. Meanwhile that is the same "proof" used by the MAFIAA to sue 13 year olds for downloading Happy Birthday and open access points (rogue users) are no defense. Rogue employee or not, it is the exact same same "proof" they intend to use in enforcing six strikes against mom and pop businesses that offer free WiFi, acceptable collateral damage according to the MAFIAA criminals. While it is apparently okay for the MAFIAA to steal software and engage in rampant piracy, they frown upon mom and pop businesses offering free wifi in violation of their ISP's TOS. Hypocrites of epic proportion, the lot of them.

»www.techdirt.com/article ··· e.shtml?

I am not the copyright holder, and not being the copyright holder I have no standing to sue or file a criminal complaint. I can only point out their hypocrisy and the hypocrisy of the shills that support them.

Meanwhile there is nothing, particularly in California where these MAFIAA members are headquartered, stopping an employer from publicaly stating why an employee was terminated.

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If indeed they are "MAFIAA criminals" than YOU should report them to the proper authorities for CRIMINAL prosecution, you don't need to be a rights holder for that, just a concerned citizen.
Failing to act would be hypocritical.
and Especially in California under the labor code employers are barred from making statements about former employees, without the persons consent (given to, say a new prospective employer as part of a background check) and beyond that, state law ANY statement potentially injurious to the persons future employment without proof would bring legal action, so even expressing your opinion (which is protected) about former employees is not a good idea, UNLESS you intend to pursue CRIMINAL charges and WIN. (any CA attorney would tell you to keep your mouth shut, no matter what, even the price of winning is too high)

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Okay. I'll email the JD and the California AG but given the JD is also engaging in rampant piracy that is asking the fox to stop eating the chickens. I already notified the MAFIAA so they have no excuse for their hypocritical criminal behavior.

I am an employer in California. There is NO LAW barring employers from making statements about employees termination or work history. It happens all the time. Of course you can't misrepresent their work history or otherwise make FALSE statements but that is defamation but and has nothing to do with being an employer or not.
If you say an employee stole from the company, of course it better be the truth.
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Failing to act would be hypocritical.

Certainly you too, a person of high moral standards who feels piracy is damaging the industry, should be obliged to contact the **AA's and the various LEAs and express your concern that their employees should be prosecuted for this behavior. The fact that you are so vocally opposed to piracy but apparently willing to give the 'enforcers' the benefit of the doubt is extraordinarily hypocritical.

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Since I have no direct knowledge of any CRIME by anyone working for the RIAA or MPAA, nor do I believe the "evidence" presented in the link stories, there is nothing for ME to report.

However skeechan See Profile posts "MAFIAA criminals" in every similar thread about illegal downloading would lead me to believe either he has deep personal knowledge of CRIMES (criminal, not civil matters) having been committed.
OR
that he has delusional thoughts
OR
that his accusations are apocryphal
OR
that he believes his business or personal interests are served by the continual reparation of those stories.

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The MPAA shills can spin this anyway they want. The MAFIAA was caught red handed pirating and not just a few files, but RAMPANT piracy, and refuses to hold itself to the same standards as everyone else. They are hypocrites along with the shills that excuse make for them.

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..... and what proof is there that any of this is true? An article from Torretfreak? PUHLEEZ now.

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Wow, guess that MAFIAA check cleared.

The fact remains the MAFIAA is engaged in RAMPANT piracy and software theft and they along with their shills that defend them are hypocrites of the highest order. The fact that the MAFIAA membership engages in rampant piracy and code theft gives everyone the moral authority to do the same against them.

When the MAFIAA decides to stop their vile criminal behavior they can start casting stones.

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..... and what proof is there that any of this is true? An article from Torretfreak? PUHLEEZ now.

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No genius. The data comes from Scan Eye. Torrent Freak just wrote an article about it. But don't let facts get in the way of your excuse making for the MAFIAA pirates.

»www.customer.scaneye.net ··· mdb=&s=1

Put different organizations in the search field and see what IPs that they own turn up...like the pirates at Warner Bros.